warrior balanced change thread (all)

So if a DrK has 30k base HP, does he always have zerk up? ._.
DrKs can most definitely zerk at almost ALL bosses including nameless, toad and PB (to some degree whether standing left or right of pb and depending on whether host allows it or not).
BGA and Anego(using crusher) are the impossible ones?

 

I think Berserk is fine as is there should always be risk to the class in order for it to match other warriors since it offers more in support compared to the others.

Enrage buff and heavens hammer buff Idk if these are the right buffs but I agree they should be buffed. But something that makes you not just spam brandish forever brainlessly is always a good thing. If enrage made panic and coma worth using I'd give that two thumbs up

 

Instead of a HH buff, I have another suggestion that might make paladins useful in high level bossing. Threaten should reduce weapon defense based off of a percentage that's based off of your character's level. This will prevent low level muling but keep the class viable in parties. The exact amount, I haven't dived too deep into.

 

Seconded.(Thanks for showing new players how to zerk, Eighty! )
I think a huge common misconception is that DKs can't zerk certain bosses because it does more than the 55% hp pool(16.5k) but in reality you can just pot up before said attack hits you since they generally have wind up animations.

 

The main obstacle to DrKs zerking in PB is not big bang, but PB randomly walking around and crashing into the DK for 20k+ damage. It's basically impossible to see coming too, what with all those damage numbers covering it.

 

dont focus on the PB moving around, just follow the numbers moving. you can zerk from a distance, u dont need to stand right next to it to zerk. if you see him walk around, just press full pot.
sometimes the Bean is covered. its easier to track him via DMG lines

 

Not sure about Pallies and DKs but I've recently decided to max out Enrage at 180 due to me being a 2H hero which has no need for Guardian and too stinky to buy my own MW20 right now.

Honestly the skill isn't that bad at all. I mean, a 6att buff for free with a 4 minute cooldown (8minutes cooldown - 4minutes uptime) and recharging your combo counter literally only takes like a few seconds. I don't get why people bitch about it. It's fucking 6att for free.

But I guess it's kinda tricky to work on buffing hero's single target dpm? I mean it would be unfair for the other warrior classes if heroes just outshine them both in cleave and single target dpm by just pressing one button.

If theres any buffs for heroes, I'd say maybe give Rage a few more extra wep att because this buff is so replaceable with ciders.

 

I mean, yeah I think they should slightly buff the wep att that enrage provides if they're actually going to buff rage.

As of currently I really don't have any other skills to spend on SP on due to my own arch mage already having MW20 and most of the people I play with already have it. While it may be true that the energizer drinks are relatively easy for you to obtain. It's not necessary for yourself to use it since you already have Rage? (This is assuming you as a hero are using energizer yourself because you mentioned it makes hero skills to be less efficient again?)

Again, it'll be interesting to see if enrage actually gets a rework and I'll be excited for it too. But in my opinion, I just feel that the current one isn't as bad as how people are saying it is. I'll probably bitch about it a little if it's still dispel-able but then again, I wouldn't be that stupid to use a 4(8) minute cooldown skill if I know theres a dispel coming.

Personally I think Heroes are in a good spot in terms of both single target and cleave dpm, but as a class that excels in cleaving and also providing a 20att party buff (which is, unfortunately easily replaceable with ciders), asking for better single target damage maybe sounds a little greedy for me, you shouldn't really have the best of both worlds. But then again it's just my two cents.

Lastly, it might be true that Heroes don't have anything to offer to "high lv parties" but if your talking about Horntail, it's really just the current meta not favoring cleaves as Nise mentioned but other than HT, heroes are still quite okay I guess?

 

DrKs already have a risk of not having Power Guard like their warrior counterparts thus making them less tanky than Heroes and Paladins. I don’t see why DrKs shouldn’t be able to stay at max HP like every other class in the game.

 

this is also why DKs get hit 5k lightning from samurai instead of 8-9k ^^
same with black crow

 

Do you see the meta ever changing to be more accepting of cleave heavy comps? I feel like we've reached a point in the server where late game cleave is just not that relevant. It helps out a bit in earlier bossing like Zakum where cleaves are useful for mob control and can situationally be useful in HT runs when the bishops die, but for the most parts single-target damage prevails.

Personally, I don't want a buff to Heroes and I agree that their current class rankings are fine as is, but until recently, the Hero class has been neglected on any reworks while every other class has seen small tweaks here and there. It's also widely known that the Hero class play style is extremely stale, which I think can be fixed with a couple of tweaks, first starting with Enrage.

The latest rework for Panic damage and Combo Orb % chance was a small step forward, and I think it could be a preview of some possible Hero tweaks to come. In the past, Panic was basically made irrelevant in the 4th job because it was always more optimal to just charge up Combo to max orbs and brandish all day. With the recent buffs to Panic, getting to max combo charges and using Panic is now only slightly behind on DPM tests. If Enrage had a secondary utility of guaranteeing +2 combo orbs each hit, it could increase Hero's single-target damage. While Enrage is active, Heroes could be doing Max Combo Orbs + Panic instead of just mindlessly brandishing for eternity. Instead of reworking Enrage to be just a +damage buff, I think it should play in conjunction with the Crusader class skills (which I think were done really well even though they are pretty underwhelming during 3rd job play).

 

But wouldn't that actually make this class fun to play and not just brain-dead brandish spamming? me want spam and go afk while dealing big unga damage!!!
Honestly though It'd be fun to incorporate coma and panic in real situations instead of just casually testing the damage on snails (which I enjoy doing).
And I know it might not be possible, but the idea that when enrage is activated it
switches from multitarget attacking to single attacking is so damn cool.

Buffing rage like others have said would be a cool idea too, but not TOO much. Maybe like a 22-23 attack bonus rather than 20 (Being referred to as a cider mule hurts my pride ) It shouldn't be 25 attack (or should it?) though because energizers and those event pills are already rare as it is.
And maybe axes should finally be buffed because swords are overpriced and look lame

 

If I spent 10 SP and get 6att free, yeah i wouldn't complain. But I have to spent 30 SP for a mere 6att buff, AND its replacable by eating energizer, AND has a 4 minute cooldown.
Bruh, i have alot to bitch about. 30 SP isnt free.
Tho if u take out the cooldown, and have it remain indispellable, i'll have less to complain about

Edit: didn't know about energizer's rare drop when I first wrote this, sorry about that. would like to take back my words for now, tho it might be too late