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Discussion for Lady Boss (Anego)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Siao, Mar 25, 2019.

  1. Taida
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    Taida Mixed Golem

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    im for reducing mapowner timer but please let me take a shit :(
     
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  2. MrPresident
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    MrPresident Capt. Latanica

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    I don't really have much opinion on the matter but how is a level 90 holding map owner when Anego is 130?

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  3. akashsky
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    I believe that they modified how long you hold map owner, and what level you need to be to hold the map?

    Also the way i thought about the summon is that it would be in addition to the normal map. So you could get like 2 extra anego kills per day. This way the casual players can kill anego when they want to, and the hardcore campers can still kill 8 (or more) anegos per day.
     
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  4. LiquidOoze
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    That's my friend :^)
     
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  5. artificial
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    It's so funny how people are like "camping anego is nostalgic." To me what is nostalgic is mass ksing at anego. There was a 121 hp bucc in Demethos back in the day that was named Anegodrama. If you really want nostalgia, let's remove mapowner for anego and bf and let anegopolice and bfpolice be a thing.

    All sarcasm aside I like the idea of having a custom map with reactor. Two anegos a day for me would be more than enough, but I am a filthy casual.
     
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  6. LiquidOoze
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    LiquidOoze Mixed Golem

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    Btw guys there is already an instance'd Anego its called Jiaoceng.
     
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  7. Masterg75
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    Masterg75 Brown Teddy

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    Tbh all this mapowner thing is not nostalgia either.
    Kinda annoying when 1 person owns all channels and shares them or not with whoever they want.
    personally i never killed anego and i wont even try to do so when my nl is strong enough cuz i know ill waste my time there.
     
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  8. Lionheart
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    Don't need to worry, I only mentioned 15 seconds in regards to if the system detects two characters on the same map on two different channels.

    This would make it just about impossible for a single person to be holding multiple maps by themselves, but should also allow family members or friends in the same household to be grinding still.
     
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  9. Lidas
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    I see. If its like this i dont see any problem.

    Jiaoceng is for high levels. And im not sure how much hp you need for him. He might be warriors boss.
     
  10. Fishy
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    Anego jumped on platforms in later versions.
    Kacchan Musha/Samurai was nerfed in ML (he was coded to not jump on platforms because you can make him get stuck on the small platforms and spam hit him)
    Just make it so she jumps so people cant camp maps, or tank the hits.
     
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  11. Lidas
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    Wont this make anego unkillable for some classes?
    When i solo it now i use the platforms as safe spot
     
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  12. KurayamiLove
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    Not sugesting anything but I see Jiaoceng as a better anego (with a time contrain and sumons that mess up with ranged dps) so if you want to do it sumoneable make it like this? 2 a day. But the camping problem is on most of the bosses for exp or cards or chairs. No idea how to fix it o.o.
    Bonus:
    https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/a/a7/Demoman_dominationsniper03.wav
     
  13. Lionheart
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    If they have enough HP to tank HT, they can certainly kill Anego. Maybe we should also just set Anego free so that this boss isn't a joke like Nib and no longer a snoozefest where all a ranged attacker has to do is stand on one platform and snipe.
     
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  14. Hyoon
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    It actually opens up more jobs to kill it as melee classes with decent vertical attacks like heroes can make anego jump on the book shelf and pin it below.

    It honestly doesnt reduce the amount of people killing it as you just simply pin it on the opposite side that you are on. Nls can flash jump over it, bowman can puppet lure it and jump over and sairs can do that pewpew thing.
     
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  15. Fishy
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    learn to puppet more, if youre using hurricane, you can pin it. just puppet and then rebuff.
     
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    Sometimes when i pin her to the right, she break glitch to the left. Most of the time i can pin her back. But sometime she come too close, and that when i jump to the shelf.
    I dont think the rebuff is the problem.

    But If staff think its possible, i dont mind this will be the change. just please fix puppet dc problem first.
     
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    Don't forget krexel
     
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    But Puppet only works if no one other than the archer using it attacks the monster. If anyone else does, Puppet fails. In other words, if you're trying to solo and using Puppet to pin, someone (say, a NL) can come in, hit it, and FJ away. The archer will immediately lose pin and likely be killed. Kind of makes it a problem at a map where players have killed other players just to steal the map. Also makes rebuffing a perilous process.

    I just can't agree with the idea of letting Anego run all over the map. Anego is, to me, meant for ranged characters. And as most ranged characters have low HP/not enough to tank her attack, fighting Anego necessitates a snipe/safe spot. Plus, lower level ranged classes will have a difficult enough time pinning her as is.

    Furthermore, if I did want to use Puppet to Anego, the most efficient way to do it would be to place my Puppet out of her reach -- ie; place the Puppet either on the shelves or record player where she can't reach. And the safest way to rebuff Puppet would also be on a safe spot.

    Also, you can't really jump over Anego. The slap and gunshot can hit multiple targets, aka you + your Puppet.

    Finally as Lidas has pointed out, using Puppet excessively has a known glitch where the user will DC from it. :^) Can confirm because I've DC'd plenty using Puppet before.

    tldr; don't make Anego run all over the map, archer lives matter too.

    If melee classes really want to Anego, they still can regardless of whether or not it runs all over the map. I've seen my guildie do it — all he had to do was sit on it. But I'm also going to echo the sentiments of some people in this thread and point out that Jiaoceng is the basically the warrior equivalent of Anego.

    Last point — how many people in this thread have actually fought Anego? Because this thread feels more like a general complaints and issue thread about camped area bosses than Anego specifically.
     
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    I like to solo anegos :^)
     
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    This thread is created to garner feedbacks, opinions, and suggestion how we can tackle the current situation. I wouldn't say that it is a sore issue to fix immediately per se, but it is interesting to know how people feel about this situation and their opinions. As compared to us just jumping to fix things without seeking the public's feedback. Again, we can't please everyone.

    I would like to thank everyone for their inputs, regardless good or bad, complaints or not. We have roughly an idea on how to tackle and will further announce it once things are more or less finalized.
     
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