Thief Krythan's Night Lord | Guide to Thirty Thousand Hit Points

No worries! As Lirbo said, you're doing just fine! Level "40" was just a nice round number to explain the idea.

Also true! Though, leeching to 160 is no small task!

 

Awesome! I'm very impressed by the amount of INT equip. you've got!

When to stop increasing INT?

Keep going until you have 400 Base INT. Base INT is your INT score, not accounting for INT equips or buffs.

What's the difference between Base INT and INT equip.? INT equip. only gives you bonus MP on level up, while Base INT gives you bonus MP on level up AND increases the amount of MP you get when MP Washing.

Put in 5 points at once?

In the long run, you'll be able to gain a few more points of MP by ensuring that you're reaching multiples of 10 when MP washing.

Spoiler: Click here for an example

So in your case, upon leveling to 64, you can do all 5 points to MP then all 5 points from MP to INT - it doesn't matter because at 302 to 307 Base INT you won't be able to reach the next multiple of ten. However, at level 65, if you do 3 points to MP, then 3 points to INT (307 to 310 Base INT), the following 2 points of AP will each get +1 more MP per MP Wash because you'll be at 310 Base INT, a multiple of ten!

P.S. Don't forget Zak helm

 

Of course At 18 int, that's a sweet bandana! You should be able to do the 3rd job adv no problem, the zak helm's accuracy certainly helps with the 3rd job advancement, but nothing a few onyx apples can't solve!

 

September 16, 2023 - Update - We're cruising along with my own Night Lord. We've already reached our target level, and reset our Base INT. The AP Resets from the last anniversary event really helped. This event? Not so much. Now we're just waiting on NX for stale washing. We got a few levels of exp by running daily zaks, and made a +34 DEX/17 LUK zak helm that I'm quite happy with. So far, we've bought ~300m worth of leech, and ~200m worth of misc. equip. Next steps, continue selling leech in order to upgrade our claw/gloves, and in a few months we should be able to get 10,000 HP, which opens up some bossing options.

 

Bro! This stuff is expensive!!!!

Though, good point. Buying a few Balances Furys is on my shopping list.

 

Why not add a fifth!? Add a second bishop for farming and make the party an even 6!

You could. For the sake of example, let's say that you didn't MP Wash at 200 INT, but rather started at 400 INT. You would essentially have to leech this character to a higher level to have generated enough MP for 30k. So, for example, instead of resetting your Base INT at level 140, you might have to reset your base INT at level 150 in order to get in additional levels of MP washing. You can simulate this in the spreadsheet calculator in the first post. Message me if you want help running these simulations! Actual numbers differ greatly based on how much INT gear you have.

If available, you should 100% be using your INT equip. Why? Once again, you're missing out on MP gains. The consequence is having to level this character a few more levels at the end to compensate. Remember, you only need to be wearing the INT equip. when you level up. So as soon as the Paladin levels up, you can swap the INT gear to your NL so it's wearing them at point of level up.

 

If it is a significant challenge - It's a long road to leech to 150. Generally speaking, this will be done at a combination of skele, petri, and 5-6F. Buying leech at 5-6F is normally slightly faster, but sellers will bill at a higher rate (1:3.2 vs. 1:3.0 at the time of writing this). For this reason, I generally stick to petri/skele leech.

Skele is most often done with a high level bishop, petri with an archmage and 5-6F is most commonly done with 2 high level (160+) archmages. For my Night Lord, I bought so, so many hours of Petri (shoutout to DearAgony)... about 300m+ worth of Petri leech.

Any of these leech choices are similar, and it's just a matter of which type of mage you have.

Following then original build as posted in the beginning of this thread, if you have decent INT gear you could hit your target MP as early as 140... I calculated this build as to be what I found to be the sweetspot of NX cost vs. leeching cost. Adjusting your INT is just a way of changing that balance - as it'll make the build either more meso/leech expensive, or more NX expensive, each way has it's own merit.

 

It's possible! Essentially, if you wanted to start MP Washing at level ~80+, you might have to compensate by either raising your Base INT, or in the case of optimizing for NX, you could increase your Target Level instead!

For example: instead of leveling to 150 before resetting base int, you could level to ~155-160 to generate the extra MP that you need.

Make a copy of the calculator in the original post, and you can play around with these different variables, and see how they effect the target level, and overall NX cost. Or, feel free to message me and I can help you run different scenarios!

 

November 7th, 2023 - We're still voting! We've hit a few key milestones since our last update in this post:

1. Now at 10k HP, and 20k MP.
2. Upgraded to a 73 att Red Craven
3. Scrolled a 12 DEX 2 LUK Octopus earrings, thanks summer event!
   
4. First Horntail was a success, got our 23 DEX/23 LUK HTP!
   
5. Collecting Balanced Furies so Lirbo doesn't call me a scrub again

 

For future updates on my Night Lord, see Krythan's Journal.

I've also made some minor updates to the calculator (linked in the original post) to better differentiate between the "upfront" NX cost (NX required before you can reset based INT), and the "later" NX cost, as in, the NX required for stale washing that can be done over time.

 

They do not!

I wanted to present conservative defaults that did not account for bonuses from INT equip. or Maple Warrior. Thus, in reality you may find yourself able to reach your Target MP a few levels earlier.

I've updated the original post and the spreadsheet to indicate this!