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[Guide] Krythan's New Player Guide | Getting Started in MapleLegends

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    Welcome to MapleLegends! This guide will teach you what I wished I had known in my first 100 hours of the game.

    Whether this is your first experience with MapleStory, or your latest private server, I want you to have fun, and make the most out of your time. This guide aims to cover what you need to know, and where to find information, so you can streamline your experience, make friends, level up, and get deeper into the game, faster!

    Always remember, there is no “right”, or “wrong” way to play. If you are enjoying your time, you’re playing the game the “right” way.

    Table of Contents
    1. Getting Started
    2. Leveling Up
    3. Making Money
    4. Finding Friends
    5. Becoming Stronger
    6. Washing
    7. The Meta
    8. Advanced

    1. Getting Started


    Let’s get started. Time to download the game, make an account, and spin up your very first character! In the beginning, I highly recommend just loading into the game, and exploring. For those that want a guide that walks you through the basics of how to play, read Lionheart’s guide Beginner's Guide to Starting Out.

    A. Choose a class

    The first real choice you’ll need to make in this game is “which class do I want to play?”. MapleLegends has done a great job balancing the classes. Different classes shine in different scenarios, but all classes are viable, and enjoyable to play.

    LirboLirbo ’s All Classes Review breaks down the different classes, their play styles, their strengths & weaknesses. In the Job Guides category of these forums, there are a ton of guides on leveling, and building, each class.

    Tip: Make sure to check the date on any advice you read. Especially as you get into more advanced topics, information is often out of date.

    If you’re coming from another version, or MapleStory server, check out KimmyKimmy ’s post on the MapleLegends Skill Changes.

    B. Vote every day

    You can earn NX by voting for MapleLegends on GTOP and TOPG. Log into maplelegends.com, and click Vote for Cash.

    Use NX to buy items from the Cash Shop. You can buy items such as cosmetics for your character, inventory upgrades, and items for convenience.

    There are a number of items that you’ll want to prioritize buying in the Cash Shop:

    2. Leveling Up


    A. Kill monsters


    The priority of your first 100 hours is leveling up. The most basic way to do this is to kill monsters, aka “training”. Players such as Jaikor and their Comprehensive Training Guide have compiled lists of the most popular training locations.

    However, the best recommendations are going to be specific to your class. Many job guides have provided the most popular maps for that class. Examples include BellaBella's Bella’s Bishop Guide, iPippyiPippy ’s Buccaneer Guide, or BluBlu's Shadower guide.

    Tip: Relax. Enjoy your time. At its very core, this game is about chilling and grinding. Don't over-do it. Don't burn out. Getting sick and tired of the grind? Do something different such as hunt for Monster Book cards, hangout and chat in the Free Market, or just take a break.

    And don’t forget to drink water.

    B. Complete quests

    You’ll get a lot of exp from questing. In MapleLegends, all quests reward 3x experience. Especially in the earlier levels, questing is a fast way to level up.

    Check out jshyyjshyy ’s guide on Good Quests. For a more comprehensive breakdown, read Nicholas’s Exact Guide for 1-35 in under 6 hours, and NiseNise ’s Quick/Precise Leveling for New Chars! (~ Lvl 35)

    C. Run party quests

    The most social way to level up is party quests, or PQs for short. Each PQ has a map where players will meet up, and form groups. If you can’t find a group, use a Super Megaphone, or come back later and try again. It can be hit or miss how popular a PQ is at any given time.
    There are a few great items you can get for running a certain number of a PQ. The most notable examples are Squishy Shoes (+1 All Stats, KPQ), Broken Glasses (+1 All Stats, LPQ), Ellin Glittering Earrings (+1, or +2 All Stats, EPQ), and Goddess Wristband (+4 INT, +3 Weapon Attack, OPQ). These items are great for their level, however don’t go out of your way just for the item - as you’ll most likely outgrow these items in the future.

    To see all the rewards, check out fireelement1’s guide on Party Quests & Rewards.

    D. Buy leech

    Leech is paying another player to kill monsters for you. When a party member kills a monster, some exp is shared with the party. This way you’ll get exp, without having to do the work. Because a higher level character is often the one doing the killing, leech can be faster than grinding monsters yourself. This is especially true for levels 65+. Learn more in KrythanKrythan's Leech Buying Guide

    Saving up money, and buying a few hours of leech between grinding sessions can often be a great way to take a well earned breather from the grind, and can help you push through some of the slower stretches of the game.


    3. Making Money


    Making money is making progress. Mesos buy you pots, power (through gear) and exp (through leech). If you’re brand new, check out cwongcwong's Jump Start Your MapleLegends Adventure.

    A. Price check

    The most accurate way to check the value of something is to use an Owl of Minevera in the Free Market.

    The easiest way is to use owlrepo.com, a database of items that have historically been on the market. While not 100% accurate, it’s a great tool for referencing scroll prices. The site owlrepo.com doesn’t show how the different stats on an item affect its value. A Red Craven with max attack is going to cost a lot more than one without. A scrolled bathrobe with +20 INT is going to cost a LOT more than one with +15.

    How can you determine these prices? Grab a notebook. Use an Owl of Minivera from the Cash Shop, and search for a specific item. For each of the possible stats, write down the cheapest you’ve found that item on the market. The more days you do this, the more accurate it’ll be. Is it perfect? No. But it gives a great place to start when determining how much an item costs:

    When I was looking to buy a Bathrobe scrolled with INT, here’s what my notes looked like:
    10 13m
    12 25m
    13 28m
    14 30m
    15 40m
    16 60m
    17 75m
    18 85m
    19 110m
    20 180m

    Pro Tip: On the Discord server, you can search the #free-market for items that were listed in the past. While almost exclusively high value end-game items, it’s a good place to check for some of those big ticket items.

    B. Open a store

    You’ll be buying and selling things in the Free Market, or FM for short. Once you reach level 16, you’ll be able to make larger transactions, as well as buy a store. Buying a store in the Cash Shop is a one-time purchase, and lets you sell your own items in the market.

    Pro Tip: I recommend creating a second account as a “FM Mule”. This account lets you buy as many items from the cash shop as you want, without using the NX that your main character is going to want to use. These means you can buy: Owl of Minerva (owls), and Super Megaphones (smegas). I also recommend purchasing all of the item inventory storage upgrades on this character so it can be your storage for items you are saving or waiting to sell.

    C. Collect gacha

    In your first 100 hours, Gachapon is going to make up a large portion of the money you make. Gachapon drops from monsters, and can be cashed in for random items and scrolls, then you can sell these items in your FM shop. Kill monsters, get Gacha. It’s as simple as that. Read more by local legend fartsyfartsy in their mini beginner guide to making mesos (with pictures!).

    Pro Tip: I recommend using the Gachapon in Ellina when cashing in Gacha, since it has a (small) bonus to the amount of mage scrolls and equipment it gives.

    Pro Tip: It’s often more efficient to sell your valuable scrolls, rather than use them. A single scroll of Overall Armor for INT can fetch 12m. For you, that’s either a 30% chance of +5 INT, or 2 hours of leech that you can buy.

    D. Farm drops

    Kill monsters. Get their stuff. Some monsters drop better stuff than others. It’s sometimes worth going out of your way to try and farm specific monsters for their drops. Popular examples include Drakes (Scroll for Helmet for INT 60%), Miner Zombies (Golden Teeth), Master Chronos (Scroll for Helmet for DEX 60%), Wild Monkey (Banana Peels), White Mama Monkey (Monkey Dolls), Voodoo (Heartstoppers) and more! Check out SwordArt’s Meso Making Guide or Cavern2’s Meso Farming 2021 for popular locations.

    Use maplelegends.com/lib to see which monsters drop which items, as well as the possible stats on any given item.

    E. Complete quests

    There are a ton of quests that have either a guaranteed, or chance to provide a high value item. See TyronTyron ’s guide on Money making quests for new players. For an abbreviated list, here’s what I believe to be the most profitable quests in the game, where rating is a subjective score of effort to reward ratio.
    F. Run APQ

    Are you level 40? Are you married? Then you can run APQ, one of the most profitable things a low level player can consistently do. Once every 6 hours you can hunt for keys, and get a ticket to enter. APQ is a great chance to meet higher level players, and collect Onyx Apples… a valuable end-game consumable.

    Read fehiccupfehiccup ’s APQ Guide (with pictures!), as well as how to get married in MirrorsMirrorsWeddings Revamped!

    G. Participate in events

    MapleLegends run a number of seasonal events. Most notably, the Christmas, Halloween, Summer (Anniversary) events. These events often come with unique quests and challenges that can provide a great way to meet other players, and farm for valuable items. Plus, each event also has a power exclusive item to unlock - they’ll often expire in a few months, but are often very good items, for a moderate amount of effort.

    H. And more!

    That’s not all. There’s no shortage of items to farm, and services to offer in order to make money. Some of the most common examples include:
    • Selling Fame - Making a few level 15 characters than can sell their daily fame at 100k/day
    • Monster Book Cards - Farming monster book cards for characters that are working on their Monster Book ring. Earn 500k per card dropped.
    • Merching - Browsing the Free Market to buy low, sell high. Easier said than done.
    • …and more!

    4. Finding Friends


    This server has one of the friendliest communities I’ve seen in an online game. Many players are here to bond over a shared, and often nostalgic experience. Don’t be afraid to ask for help, more often than not players are eager to provide guidance.

    A. Run PQs

    PQs are one of the best ways to meet other players. They bring groups of players together, and keep them together for a long time. Most importantly, you meet players that are around your level range, making it more likely you’ll play together in the future.

    B. Join a guild

    Find a new player friendly guild! There are many alliances full of new and old players happy to help.

    C. Hangout in the FM

    Chill in the FM, also known as being a “FM Hoe”. There’s no shortage of players that just sit around, chat, (and gamble).

    D. Use smegas

    Don’t be afraid to use “Super Megaphones” from the Cash Shop. These allow you to send out a message to all players online. It’s a great way to recruit others. I was hesitant to broadcast messages at first, afraid of looking the fool, but on a low-population server, smegas are a great way to find people for an activity, and broadcast that you are recruiting (R), buying (B), or selling (S) something. Examples:
    • "Recruiting players to grind Ghost Ship with me"
    • "Kerning PQ, need 2 more"
    • "Buying CD leech, any sellers?"
    E. Discord

    The community in Discord is friendly, especially NightzNightz, beegorattobeegoratto , GurkGurk, fartsyfartsy and more that hangout in the #questions channel.

    5. Becoming Stronger


    A. Gain levels


    For your first 100 hours, the best way to get stronger is to gain levels. Prioritize leveling up over most other activities.

    B. Upgrade your equip.

    There’s no shortage of items to choose from. For a starting point, see MirrorsMirrors The Comprehensive Gear Guide. For the most part, focus on your weapon first, and everything else later. Don’t put too much time or energy into low level equipment, as you’ll outgrow most of it rather quickly. It’s only once you get 100+ then you start focusing on items that you’ll have with you for a while.

    Pro Tip: Buying leech is often a better use of money than buying equipment. For example, a +17 INT Bathrobe costs 100m. For that same price, you could buy 16 hours of Ulu Estate II leech that could bring you from 90 to level 110.

    C. Buy equip. services

    There are a few extremely powerful equips that you should consider trying to acquire as soon as you can. High level players will offer looting these items as a "service", such that you can pay for them to kill the boss for you. This allows you to acquire and equip the item long before you would have otherwise been able to defeat the boss. Most of these services come with "free re-loots", meaning if multiple of the items drops during your run, you're allowed to try your luck and subsequent pickups.
    • Zakum Helm - Level 50 - Up to +17 in all stats, and 10 slots. Most commonly sold as "AFK Service" for 18m, or "non-AFK Service" for 12m, requiring that you are capable of surviving on your own. Pre-quest required.
    • Targa Helm (INT/LUK) - Level 90 - Up to +19 in the primary stat (INT or LUK), up to +17 in secondary stats, and 10 slots. Most commonly sold for 12m. Pre-quest required.
    • Scarlion Helm (STR/DEX) - Level 90 - Up to +19 in the primary stat (STR or DEX), up to +17 in secondary stats, and 10 slots. Most commonly sold for 9m. Pre-quest required.
    • Mark of Naricain - Level 110 - Up to +6 in all stats, and up to +5 weapon attack, +11 magic attack. Most commonly sold for 16m. No pre-quest.
    • Horntail Pendant - Level 120 - Up to +23 in all stats. Most commonly sold as "AFK Service" for 100m, or "non-AFK Service" for 50m, requiring that you are capable of surviving on your own. Pre-quest required.

    D. Scroll your equip.

    This is a topic in itself, so we’ll just scratch the surface here.

    For the most part, in your first 100 hours, you’re better off selling your high value scrolls, and buying discounted items. Want to know if a scroll is valuable? See estimates on owlrepo.com.

    Thanks to higher level players, there are a lot of discounted “byproducts” on the market. These are items that were made in the process of scrolling, that didn’t end up being part of the end result. You can often find poorly scrolled gear for very cheap.

    Be careful when scrolling items that aren’t tradeable. Most scrolled items you can sell once you find something better. However, any scrolls put into an untradable item is a sunk cost. For the most part, the only untradeable items that you’ll be scrolling are the Zakum, Ravana, and Targa/Scar helmets which are likely your end-game equip.

    E. Upgrade your monster book

    Upgrade your Monster Book Ring by collecting the cards that many of the mobs across the Maple world will drop. For every 5 cards you get 1 set, for every 30 sets you get to upgrade your ring to the next tier. Each tier gives an additional +1 to All Stats, and a bonus to HP and MP. Read more about the Monster Book in Nimbus’s Card Hunting Guide:

    F. Use attack potions

    Don’t forget to use the consumables that boost your attack. Compared to gear, they’re often a quick and easy way to get some extra points of damage in. Here are the most popular weapon attack consumables in the game, thanks to PlaceHolderPlaceHolder ….

    Pro Tip: Save yourself some travel time, and buy your specialty potions in the FM. There are many shops in the FM that are dedicated to selling popular potions, the most common examples being: Ciders, Wizard Elixirs, All Cures, and more!

    Pro Tip: Visit Miki in New Leaf City (NLC). This NPC sells some of the best HP and MP pots in the game.

    6. Washing

    Welcome to the most controversial topic in this community. Don't let the conversation be stressful. This community LOVES it's washing.

    Play the game, learn, have fun, and don’t worry about washing or “end-game viability”. In the far future, by the time you get to the point of wanting more HP than the HP Challenges give, you'll be in a better place to make that perfect attacker.

    At this point in time, just make sure you have an extra account or two (or five) that you're voting on, and and put it in the back of your mind that at a later point in time, once you have the knowledge, funding and vote cash (NX), you can make your perfect atttacker should you get deep into end-game.

    A. What is washing?

    What is washing? Creating a character with more max HP or MP by using AP Resets from the Cash Shop. Washing takes careful planning, time, effort, and funding, but most importantly, it takes a ton of NX (vote cash) to do properly.

    Washing is not required to play and enjoy the game.

    As of 2024, the HP Challenges system is currently being developed. These challenges will introduce a viable alternative to washing, especially useful for those who are on their first character, and don’t have / want to, spend the time, effort, and NX to wash. They will allow characters to complete specific quests to gain additional HP, allowing any character to participate in almost every boss in the game.

    How does it work? The core concept is that through the use of Ability Points (AP) and AP Resets, you can get more HP at the cost of MP. When you level up, you gain bonus MP based on your INT, thus allowing you to create characters with additional MP that can be converted into additional HP.

    While “Washing” is a blanket term, there are actually three main methods of “Washing”. Different classes use different combinations of these methods.

    1. Fresh HP Washing is putting AP into HP, then AP Resetting -MP +STAT. Most commonly used by Warriors and Buccaneers.
    2. MP Washing is putting AP into MP, then AP Resetting -MP +STAT. Most commonly used by Mages, Archers, Corsairs, and Thieves.
    3. Stale HP Washing is AP Resetting MP to HP. Most commonly used by Archers, Corsairs, and Thieves.
    4. ...and more.

    B. Why do washing?

    There are many end-game bosses that can inflict more damage than a character has HP. The most popular way to survive is to utilize the washing mechanics to create a character with more HP. The most common bosses that people wash for include Horntail (~9.9k+), and Pink Bean (~19.2k+). Read more in NiseNise Major Bosses & HP Required and Selquin’s Important HP thresholds.

    C. Do I need to wash my first character?

    Short answer: No. The HP Challenges are a great alternative.

    However, when planning your first character, I would recommend seriously considering washing if you plan to make a Mage or a Warrior. Both classes are very straight forward to wash, and require very little NX and upfront planning when compared to the rest of the classes.

    Read more about mage washing in @Krythan’s Mage Washing Guide, or an example of washing in KrythanKrythan's Warrior Washing Guide.

    For the rest of the classes, I would not recommend washing them if they are your first character. For these characters, washing takes careful planning, time, effort, and funding, but most importantly, it takes a ton of NX (vote cash) to do properly. As such, it’s very difficult to do so on your first character. In this case, the HP Challenges will provide a great alternative to washing.

    Here are the classes, ranked from easiest to hardest to wash… as measured by the combined difficulty of planning, leveling, and required NX.
    Careful: There are many forum posts that are out of date. Make sure to consult the last updated date, and/or as ask #questions in Discord if in doubt.

    To see the math, see @Nise’s HP Washing Formula Compilation

    7. The Meta

    Enjoying your time? If you’re having a good time, and plan to stick around for a while, here’s how to get a jump start!

    A. Create multiple accounts

    Create at least 5 different accounts. As long as they have a single level 1 character, you’ll be able to vote on those accounts and accumulate NX. Having accounts with NX on them gives you many options going forward, and the only cost is your time. You don't need to know what you will do with these accounts, just know that the longer you play, the more likely you'll be wanting to have an extra account with NX on it.

    B. Create mules

    Create characters that can assist and buff your mains. The most popular mules are:
    • Free Market Mule - Level 16 character for buying, selling, posting stores, owl-ing, and smegas.
    • Hyper Body Mule - Level 41 spearman to give the Hyper Body buff for more HP/MP.
    • Holy Symbol Mule - Level 81 priest to give the Holy Symbol buff for its EXP bonus.
    Read more in OradiousOradious Degeneracy: How do I mule? And akashskyakashsky's Guide to recommended mules and how to make them.

    C. Vote every day

    Voting for MapleLegends on GTOP and TOPG rewards you with NX.

    If you’re washing, you need all the NX you can get. Vote every day, on every account you have. You can gain up to 7,000 NX per account, per day, thanks to Voting streak Milestone Rewards

    There are two sites you can vote on.
    • Red Kimmy (GTOP): 5,000 NX per day. Every day you vote, your streak increases by 20, for a maximum of 6,500 NX per day. Each “day” resets at midnight server time (+0 GMT). Streaks do NOT reset if you miss days.
    • Blue Kimmy (TOPG): 500 NX every 12 hours.
    I recommend using PandaOnPandaPandaOnPanda ’s airplane mode trick, as well as IceMingoIceMingo ’s voting app.

    D. Explore the world

    Once you get off Maple Island, find how to get to the different locations with Poofcake’s How to get to…, or see which paths between continents are possible with ChewChew ’s great MapleLegends map

    E. Defeat bosses

    Defeat bosses, get exp, collect their loot. The most popular bosses that players will run are listed below. We've also added the minimum level to enter, and minimum HP to survive the boss.

    Disclaimer: Actual suggested values may be higher.
    For more information, see NiseNise ’s guide on Major Bosses & HP Required. There’s also a lot of area bosses that spawn around the world. See Midnight’s Bossing Guide for a list.

    F. Earn prestigious coins

    Prestigious coins, “p coins” or just “coins” are a form of currency that drops from bosses. Bosses will drop “pouches”. Pouches will contain a number of coins. As of February 2024, coins are worth around 3.2m each. These coins are then used to buy Chaos Scroll and White Scrolls for end-game scrolling. Because they are items, they are not taxed when traded, making prestigious coins the preferred currency for buying and selling expensive items.

    G. Sell leech

    Are you planning to become a Bishop? One of the most consistent forms of income in the game is selling leech service. While not required, it’s very common to see players making their first character as a bishop, or archmage (with a holy symbol mule) to unlock this income stream, and make it easier to level future characters.

    To learn more, read KrythanKrythan 's Leech Buying Guide

    H. Learn the commands

    There are a number of commands you can type into the in-game chat:
    • @mapowner - Shows the character that “owns” the current map. Used for resolving instances of kill stealing, and map ownership in the case of area bosses. Read more.
    • @epm - How much experience are you getting per-minute? Records for 1 minute before showing results. You can also use “@epm 2” to record for 2 minutes, “@epm 3” for 3, etc.
    • @dpm - How much damage are you doing per-minute? Records for 1 minute before showing results. You can also use “@dpm 2” to record for 2 minutes, “@dpm 3” for 3, etc.
    • @servertime - What time is it in +0 GMT? Used for determining when the next server reset is for purposes of tracking if you can vote, and boss again.
    • @ Roll 100 - Rolls a number between 1 and 100. Most commonly used for determining how to split loot that a boss dropped.
    • @commands - See the full list of commands.

    8. Advanced


    Is it getting hot in here? Or is it just me? Ready to take the game to the next level?

    There’s no shortage of end-game players that only play their main. However, it’s very popular to run a number of different characters to expedite your goals. To start out, back in 2020 LirboLirbo wrote a (now famous) post on How to start playing MapleLegends efficiently (and become a madman) where they documented one of the most common practices to optimize for end-game progress.

    It’s a lot to take in, but holds up very well with time. I find myself returning to this post every 6 months, and understanding it more each time.

    A. Sell services

    There’s no shortage of ways to make money. The most popular service to sell is Leech. Shivering breaks down some of the most common services in their post Mesos: Advanced guide to making money quickly. There’s also Oradious’ post on the Meso Making Tier List, albeit the meta has changed slightly since 2020.

    B. Meta of the month

    There will always be a “latest meta" for farming. Be that using multiple mages, DKs, heroes or even shads for farming mobs. While these strategies can be very profitable, they are risky, as they are subject to patches, meta shifts over time, and balance changes. It takes a long time for the strategies to pay off the upfront investment of having to create the accounts, collect the NX, and level the characters - thus the “Meta of the month” is reserved for the most serious of players.

    C. Play the end-end-game

    Once all is said and done, there’s only one thing left to do. As NightzNightz , beegorattobeegoratto , GurkGurk , fartsyfartsy and many more show us, the true end-game is shit posting on the Discord, trolling on the forums, and AFK-ing in the FM.

    Special thanks to megapatchesmegapatches, CallieCallie, Clam, amoebaamoeba, Andrew, and everyone else who helped write, review, and share their knowledge.

    Good luck, and have fun!

    - Krythan
     
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    This game is infuriating, let me tell you. It's all fun and games until you realize you're at the mercy of RNGesus. The market activities are slower than ever because there aren't many active players contributing. Often, the only option to get items is to farm them yourself. The problem is, there are too many high-end players searching for items I can't afford, and many are afraid of scrolling due to the risk of losing hard-earned wealth.

    This situation forced me into scrolling items for myself, and scrolling isn't cheap. You need hundreds of millions and billions of mesos, and earning them is another challenge. I'm just a casual player with limited playtime—two hours daily if I'm lucky. That's far from enough to earn reliable mesos; it's going to take years.

    So, I resorted to merching, you know, the buy low, sell high strategy. Everyone talks about market trends and opportunities. I've studied the market intensively, almost acquiring a PhD in economics. But that's another layer of luck. You don't get good deals every day (although you do if you scan the stores every hour), and it's tedious. So, I do profit scrolling on top of that. Instead of selling cheap scrolls, I use them for cheap gambles—scrolling some TMA earrings or wands for a chance for 3-5x the amount you'd get from selling the scrolls.

    However, you can't just pray and pass scrolls; there's an art to it. So, I studied those scrolls, delving into statistics, probability, expected value, and unintentionally acquiring two math majors in the process. I calculated profits, formulated theories on how scrolling works, developed strategies, and created graphs, tables, and numbers. In the end, it pays off. I managed to make a bunch of goodness, many of which are end game-worthy.

    Now comes the final part, my daggers. This is the last obstacle, beyond any preparation, and it's possible I may never get to it in my lifetime. Every day, I'm farming like a mad person with limited playtime and eventually losing my hard-earned wealth to some stupid 70% scrolls every week. At this point, only a miracle can save me from these endless grinds. I'm not even aiming for the stars or the moon; I just want a 130+wa dagger.

    After all these tortures of the unknowns, am I still enjoying the game? Yes… yes, I do.

    (save me)
     
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    kiwizkiwiz is evidence that there's no right or wrong way to play the game! Your story (by nature of your journals) is a testament to getting ahead with ingenuity and determination. Trying out new strategies, experimenting with theories, and finding unique ways to play the game and progress. It's walking evidence that there are so, so many ways that one can choose to play this game!

    Each player has their own experience, and their own unique way that that choose to play the game. And that's a thing of beauty.

    Even if kiwizkiwiz is at the mercy of the RNG gods :)
     
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    Just commenting so I can read this later thx
     
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    While I acknowledge that the following isn't the most optimal setup, it's a strategy I've relied on for an extended period. It's within my comfort zone and has allowed me to play for an extended duration, making decent progress without experiencing significant burnout.

    If you plan to play this server somewhat casually and still want to be able to make decent progression, here's what I suggest:

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    1. Any first character to enjoy the game.
    2. Bishop, MP wash, HP wash optional.
    3. Main, MP & HP wash.
    4. Hermit, MU mule, Owl mule, storage.
    5. Spearman, HB mule, Owl mule, storage.
    Choosing your first character as a Bishop will undoubtedly lead to faster overall progress. Opting for an Assassin, which later becomes a Hermit, can serve as your MU mule, saving you valuable time in the process.

    For the first month or two, immerse yourself in the game and enjoy what it has to offer. Explore guides on skill point allocation for your first character, or ask for advice on Discord. As you play, everything else will come to you naturally, at the same time, consider which class you truly enjoy to be your main.

    By the time you've a level 120 Bishop, a level 43 HB mule, and an 80 MU mule, you'll have a robust foundation. While HB and MU mules may not be strictly necessary, they prove beneficial by saving and earning you meso in the long run. From this point, if you desire, you can transition into more hardcore paths as you now have the ability to self-leech any character you want to build. Alternatively, you can continue enjoying the game at a casual pace, as I have since 2018, while still making decent earnings.

    My main farming method involves using dual clients, with one being a Bishop and the other being my main (Shadower). I look for maps that have two distinct sections, allowing each character to contribute to the spawn rate of mobs for the other. This setup ensures that they can focus on killing mobs most of the time without having to move around the map too much.
     
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    I think that's a great list! I'll add to that and say, at the start, you don't need to know what #3 "Main" will be. That you can determine at a future point in time!

    (Also wouldn't hurt to have a "Second Main" account)
     
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    Question, by "Multi-maging" or Dk/Shad whatever, do you mean people play 3 mages at once making use of the downtime in between ult casting?
     
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    Essentially! Most of these strategies are built around finding ways to play multiple characters at once. These often take quite a bit of money, and infrastructure to level up the required characters, plus risky as they are more subject to balance changes - so I generally add the disclaimer that folks should have some pretty extensive experience before exploring these routes.

    Though, that's a topic for a post or guide of it's own :) Well beyond the scope of what we've covered here.
     
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    Hi im new

    now give me starting funds
     
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    wooo, another pog guide!
     
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    Great guide! Lots of good info

    The one suggestion I'd make is that for new Heroes/Pallies, I would focus on MP gain which means either not washing at all, or only washing for extra MP. Challenges will get you almost all the way to 30k, and unless you're a DK it will give you adequate HP at the appropriate level ranges too.

    The tradeoff to consider is that on Challenges, you hit your HP thresholds later than a HP-washed warrior, and you'll probably still have a little INT anyway. But you're taking a mildly weaker early game for a more comfortable late game. One might wonder what's the value? Isn't MP just a luxury? Yes - but here's a scenario to think about:
    • For reference, the golden boy NL has minimum 3k MP at lv.200, lasting over 94 seconds. With alchemist + sorcs, they will spend 100k meso/hr on MP
    • Brandish uses MP 25% faster than Triple Throw, yet it's entirely possible a lv.200 Hero has <1k MP. This means your full bar would last 25 seconds, AKA at minimum 400k meso/hr purely on sorcs. More importantly, this is an entire stack of pots in your USE inventory per hour - and USE is the most valuable inventory slot
    • Let's say our Hero did the laziest MP wash possible - they added 80 INT by lv.30, removed that INT at lv.160, and did nothing else whatsoever. You now have ~2k MP, kneecapped to 1.5k because that's how much a Sorc heals. You're now only spending ~260k/hr on MP, and have 50% more MP storage in your inventory
    • Now lets say our Hero did a decent wash; they not only added 80 INT by lv.30, washed out at 160, but also managed to MP wash 3 times per lv. You now have ~4.4k mp. Your full MP bar now lasts 110 seconds, 17% longer the base NL, over 3.5x longer than Hero's base MP. You now have the option of using Mana Bulls instead of Sorcs which are more space efficient. More relevantly though, if you're putting Power Elixirs on HP, you probably don't need MP pots at all because its pretty unlikely your HP lasts 2 minutes.

    IME the higher level you are, the more tedious it feels to restock pots especially since you ain't got Flash Jump. It's something you aim to do weekly, not daily,- so having something like 50-100% more MP range in your USE is kinda nice. My main point though is that HP challenges for warrior is a pretty good option, especially compared to the minimum standard HP wash. You might not notice only having 29.5k HP but you will definitely notice only having 1k MP
     
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    good! Having the mp low sometimes bothers you a little in the drains as you lose a minimum of dpm, irrelevant perhaps, but it looks better on the printscreen
     
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    T10 ring + Ellin ring gives 600 MP, and MoN gives 300 MP.
    It's easy to pass the 1.5k line for a unwashed warrior.
     
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    February 7th, 2024 - Guide updated, changes include:
    • Defeat bosses (updated) to include more information on the most popular bosses.
    • Buy equip. service (updated) to include more information on items such as Zakum Helm, Scarga Helms, MoN, and more.
     
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    Hi everyone, I just Installed the game, how can I make mesos?, It's my 1st Character F4
     

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