Make bossing great again

So only for bosses that need signs? Not including JC (would be kinda broken here)?

I do feel that NT needs some better drops, so maybe the hard-coded minimum isn't the best. 3 would probably be reasonable.

 

For the gacha, I'd say do a anti-mule check. If the character can deal at least 10% of the bosses health (arbitary number and scales down based on how many active people attacking the boss), then the max gachas goes up by 1. Most mules don't even do a single damage so they get excluded entirely. But if you have two attackers, I guess you deserve it for building two attackers for a long itme.

 

Yeah I thought about that too. I think most NT bosses are soloable in 60min at 200. But even then, it's not that great. A 6-man Zak with 200s would take <20 minutes for the possibility of 6 gacha. Similarly, you can probably 3-man cleave scarga in 30 minutes for up to 6 as well.

 

I think I mentioned a similar idea in Kimmy's NX thread. I'm all for this idea, but I think the rewards need to be larger. EV on a rare gach according to personal experience is 1-2m. I think at least 2x the number you've suggested would be reasonable.

 

If only we had a dedicated data science team so we can figure out how many times each boss is being cleared, then figure out how many extra gach/WS/CS would be added to the server per week.

 

That job sounds like hella fun tbh.

 

Just a thought, are there any downsides to increasing the meso value of boss specific drops? Ex. Zak diamond changed from 500k -> 2mil or something along the lines. This could possibly stabilize the meso income for bossers

 

Bossing economy is the crux of server health.

If bossing, as the cornerstone of this game, loses its veritable incentive over alternative content like leeching or grinding, there is nothing to look forward to, and all predicated institutions that this server stands upon will collapse.

If there is no incentive to boss:

• Why sell leech if the mesos you earn will turn into weapons that will then be used to boss?
• Why buy leech if the bossing content you aspire to enjoy has no practical merit?
• Why spend months or years to HP wash a character for bossing if bossing ultimately becomes less incentivized than grinding?

The reality is, people boss because it's probably the more enjoyable content of this game. However, with the current state of bossing economy, people are getting taxed to boss without realizing it. This is not healthy.

 

This. I hope who does bossing understand this first.

Still it's fun to meet friends up and doing something together, so I do.

 

Wouldn't you think that we'll run into an even bigger problem once more and more people realize bossing is not worthwhile? What happens to the rest of the economy (and the primary meso sink) if more and more people shift away from bossing and move back to grinding? If you can get more exp and mesos (and gacha) by grinding at Shaolin all the while spending fewer in pots, what incentive would people have to go back to bossing?

This is the dilemma.

I agree with most of your points but I'm highlighting this section because I find this to be the main point of concern.

In the grindfest that is the game of Maplestory, part of server growth relied on people quitting overtime. However, over the past year, we've been put in a weird state where people are locked into this game for external reasons. Many more people are simply grinding it out to end-game, thus shaping our server with a top-heavy population. IMO, much of this is exacerbated by content - mainly, Shaolin - that I think is unbalanced.

Honestly, I don't know where I'm going with this post. One can only guess how things will sort itself out in the next year. But I trust that staff are planning something behind the scenes to help remedy some of these concerns that older players have been pointing out, memes and all.

 

So what i'm hearing is that if you increase the raw meso gain from bossing, you'd have to introduce a source of meso sink to compensate? How about a Chair NPC that sells old or GM-exclusive chairs for 100m each. I'll spend all my money instantly. Please unleash the trove $_$

 

Actually this suggestion is very good, the time you spent on bosses you could get much more gachas than the min number required to boss.
The only boss I think its abit tricky is Zakum - where its 6man signs and can be killed in 15mins (if squad is good enough).
I would also suggest to add scrolls that cant be find on mobs (not talking about WS/CS)
like bottomwear for dex 30% (dex+accuracy and not dex+speed), Helmet for Accuracy 60% and so on :/

 

Instead of dropping gacha, I think it is better to just "use" the gacha and drop the items on the spot.
Then the host can sell those item for a fairer spilt, instead of rolling for gacha where you can end up with nothing.
It is gonna be epic when that zak shoots out a CS/WS when it dies.

Anyway, bossing is meant a change for pace for the leeching/grinding game anyway and for the social aspect as well.
I don't think most players rely on bossing to "get rich" anyway, other than maybe PB or HT when MW20 drops.

I believe self leeching at all level is more profitable on average than bossing anyway, if you take into considering the time taking for boss pre-quest/ gathering your squad and stuffs.

 

If peoples notice bossing is not rewardful, and start to avoid, supply of bossing stuff will be decreased and because of supply and demand, bossing stuffs prices will rise up.

Ofc, ppl who seeks rewards will get again to bossing in that case.

That's how economy works. Current price of bossing stuff is result of current supply-demand. Don't forget that.