Octopus Bug

An Octopus does more damage than a cannon shot over the course of its 40 seconds, of course it's useful

+ now we're getting FOUR of them and upkeep management is going to be fun. I don't want to lower the skill ceiling. I'm not sure how you can argue making summons more braindead is "fun and challenging" :s

 

Ugh so.... shall I make Octopi mules for ezpz extra DPM and make bossing like Tower Defence...?

 

Fun and challenging would be decreasing the duration for your summons, not increasing them. Forcing you to reposition and recast your octopus; therefore, increasing your chances of falling off the platform and climbing the rope. FUN AND CHALLENGING.

 

I have no idea how to explain adding triple times of octopi remaining changes game and abusable in funny ways....not in HT.

Will give you a clue. Single key input, 64 lines of dmg instead of current 16 lines. And I'm already using even 'mule with 200k dmg per single key input' VERY usefully. Just not in HT. (Sometimes, even in HT for some parts.)

+ reason why pro sairs use unmount+octopi macro frequently, instead of sticking on boat and octopi so don't cannonshot is completely different. I guess you didnt understand yet why nise mentioned that technique.

 

Full disclosure, i'm a BM main, not a Corsair main. You can continue reading or skip my post completely, up to you.

Corsair mains, correct me if i'm wrong. In HT:
Top tier sairs: ~8m dpm
Average lvl 170-190 sairs: ~4-5m dpm
lvl 155 corsairs ~2.5-4m dpm

Assuming it takes at most a total of 2 seconds to dismount + cast summon + dismount:
a top tier sair would lose 160k dpm
an average sair would lose 80-100k dpm

However, from what you stated, '200k per octopus dpm on "dummies"' (approximately 150k on HT?). The stationary factor of octopus can't be overlooked either. Unlike other summons, even if you happen to fall off the platform, your octopus will continue to generate somewhat of a consistent dpm for you.

Yes, it does require a little more effort, but IMO this looks like an overall dmg buff to average sairs while overall dmg to top tier sairs remain relatively the same. There's probably a sair out there developing a new meta on how to maximize the utility of the octopuses to increase their DPM even more.

Increasing the duration will only further increase the DPM for Corsairs. I don't think NLs will be too happy about that . I just hate to see Nise and co. go into this never ending cycle of trying to balance a class because there was a change to the overall "HT DPM spectrum of classes". You fix one problem, another one shows up.

 

I've accepted my fate as a BM and will let the Corsairs and NLs duke it out for top DPM.

 

If you move too far away from the octopus it stops shooting. It also doesn't have 100% fire rate on horntail heads because they duck, and wings make the octopus glitch out and do nothing when attacking from the left side. Also octopus has pretty bad attack range. Octopus is really good when it is actually attacking, but this isn't always the case.

 

No worry. actually approx 33% of each NLs DPM is by yours. LOL

 

Top SS: Octopus @dpm 2 on the top right platform
Bottom SS: No octopus @dpm 2 on the top right platform

Took many dpm2's until I had 2 minutes of no head cancels. dpm2 was chosen because it takes into account animation time for 3 complete summons (3x 40 seconds). It's hard to go above this because of weapon cancels making the comparisons difficult.

Spoiler: Placement

Octopus placed where the red box is

I think wrath of octopi scales with DEX, so it's probably not as effective if you're low levelled or have high base INT. Octopi isn't really worth it on the left side because it'll glitch out while wings are up and stop attacking (as Akash pointed out above) but I think it's still good on the top right side. I didn't really see the octopus stop attacking while on the top right.

On a target dummy, I get around +500k dpm from one octopus summon.