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Reduce Summer Raffle Cost

Discussion in 'Accepted' started by postcard, Sep 3, 2019.

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    postcard Selkie Jr.

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    The current cost of one raffle pull has increased from 150 points to 200. However, the RNG on the fish caught with bait has also been adjusted so that the fish with the least value (worth one point) is more common.

    I'm fine with the fish balance, it's probably what was intended from the beginning. But the increase in points cost for a raffle on top of the fish RNG change feels like a double nerf/overkill and a punishment against players who want to enjoy the event. And considering that the JQ/Beanstalk event don't give anything that can be exchanged for points, the increased cost is even more excessive.

    tldr; change raffle cost back to 150 points from 200. Or even 200 > 175.

    (I am enjoying the summer event; big thanks to all the staff who worked on it!! This is just my personal opinion on how to make it even more enjoyable.)
     
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    I agree with this. The raffle cost should be reduced from 200 to 150. If the JQ/Beanstalk event contributed some points towards the raffle, players would be more incline to starting up Beanstalk (I honestly haven't seen much of the Beanstalk event) or if completing the JQ gave each player 25 or 50 points then it would be more reasonable to keep it at 200.
     
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    Hiyo Headless Horseman Retired Staff

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    Hello, as part of the QA team, we have to decided to not change the price of the raffle from 200 points, however we decided to buff how many Baits you get per Dog Treat. The following change is:

    1 Dog Treat for 1 Bait (current) > 1 Dog Treat for 6 Bait (new)
    An announcement should be made soon on discord so hold onto those Treats for now! Hopefully this small change should overall give you more Bait to fish with and hit that jackpot Poppin. Happy fishing!
     
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    Selquin Headless Horseman

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    For those are interested, here is a quick estimation of how big this buff is.
    Roughly speaking you can farm about ~100 baits and ~50 boxes an hour.
    From opening 400 boxes yesterday, I gained 204 baits and 24 dog treats. I will assume that the conversion ratio from boxes to baits is about 1:2, and the dog treat ratio 1:16.

    With this in mind, previous to the nerf you could farm about ~130 baits an hour (100 dropped baits + 25 box baits + 3dog treats). Post buff each dog treat will give an additional 5 bait, which means you will be seeing about 15 extra bait per hour. Thus this buff is on the order of ~10%.

    To give a comparison, raffle prices were increased by 33% and Ap reset prices by 25%.

    Of course this is just a rough estimation, but it should give you a decent idea of how the changes stack against one another.
     
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    aaronis Slimy

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    very cool hiyo this is why ur my favorite retired staff member after nugzeh
     
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    I only have data from before the changes but I was getting 120-130 baits per hour (including boxes & dog treats) and those averaged 3.8 points per bait. This nets a total of 456-494 points per hour which was enough for 3 raffles/2 resets. Increasing the baits on dog treats is a nice bonus but I don't think it will make much of a dent when the average points per bait is lower and the raffle/reset costs are higher.
     
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    Just nerf the CS/WS rates & reduce the price back to 150, bam problem solved.
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    I agree, they should of just fixed the bait to point ratio.
    But, they went overboard and decided to also nerfed the prices for both ap resets and raffles.
    Which I think is an overkill.
     
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    postcard Selkie Jr.

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    Thanks for the update, Hiyo!!
     
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    MrPresident Capt. Latanica

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    Has this been implemented yet? Currently I get 2.28 points per bait compared to 3.8 from before any nerfs. Raffles have essentially doubled in price as they now take roughly 88 baits (200/2.28) when it used to be about 40 baits (150/3.8). I still think the raffle cost should be reduced because the fishing change was enough imo but dog treats can at least help if the cost will stay the same.
     
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    The change has been implemented, treats should give you 6 bait per treat, however regarding the price of the raffle it is unlikely it will be modified for better or worse, however other changes that could ease the grind for a raffle may be made if it is needed.
     
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    I think slight increase in drop rates for the baits could help.
     

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