mapowner timeouts and abuse of the system

Great suggestion! I agree 100%. 5 minutes mapowner is way too long.

 

Sounds interesting but:

What about laptop andy? The ones taking their laptops to poop and afk in maps.
Buch is too good for u, omae wa mo shindeiru (ban carebou, #buchforgm)

The problem here is understanding when one abuses the mapowner to afk-own a map (how do you show with SS or videos in the report thread? Once again, how do you describe being in the same map as the mapowner abuser, it might make you look like a map sniper)

 

A few months ago people were complaining about 10 min mapowner. Now people are complaining about 5 min mapowner. If they indeed make a change with regards to timer, what's next?

 

cpq

 

Per the current ToS, your description is not 'map ownership abuse' but rather, map ownership as intended.
You fail to see the core issue at hand that is causing this behavior - a fear of not having a map when needed.
Lowering the mapowner timer to 2 minutes won't solve this issue.

 

Man people be on the server for 2 weeks and ask for wild changes

5 minutes is already hardly enough time to take a worthwhile break (though I do feel it was the right move to change it from 10 minutes to 5). After I sell an hour of leech or do whatever on a map, I want to get up and walk around, maybe make some tea or use the bathroom without having to lose the map that I probably waited on and worked for to get. You can hardly do anything in 2 minutes, and people are still gonna hold maps if the timer is that short. I don't think this proposed solution fixes anything, it just makes it so much worse for people.

 

If you go out with a girl and she need to go to the toilet , tell her to pee in 1minute
5minute is a good amount for pee break , water refill

If anything , i suggest banning people that sell map ownership
I've seen some people that own the map at CDs just to sell map

 

Unless we remove the mapowner completely, 2 min timer won't solve anything as you mentioned. Even with 1 min timer, people who wants to keep the map they can just keep attacking every 30 sec to hold the map forever.

We should take another approach for this, like ban people for selling the map, so people will not holding map for other purpose beside using it later?

 

Well, I think once you play this game for longer time you will learn that there are some maps are impossible to get during peak hours. So those afk map holder at the map is just to hold it while they doing some irl stuff to guarantee that they will have map to train or leech later on.

 

To make the world a better place, we must first make it a worse place.

 

and that’s why it called map owner abuse

 

carebu That statement that you've been on the server for 2 weeks and are asking for a ridiculous change is just a fact. Of course a new player is able to offer valuable suggestions, but this is not that. I've only played ML for like a year and I've seen so many forum posts from new players asking for unreasonable changes. This is one of them, 2 minutes hardly gives you time to do anything at all man.

And in this case it is relevant that you've spent less time on this server. For example if you had a 4th job mage and have sold leech before, I think you'd better understand why you'd need longer than a 2 minute break after nonstop staring at a screen for an hour or two or more. So what you have to wait for a map sometimes, everyone's gotta do it. Getting maps is competitive sometimes sure, but you shouldn't have to lose the map you probably waited for just because you're not allowed to stay off the screen for more than 2 minutes. 5 minutes is plenty reasonable imo

Edit: I do agree that selling maps is whack though. I don't know if it should be bannable but I don't know how else it could be stopped, like people should just be decent and not try to make a quick buck when they already plan on leaving

 

This is not abuse, so just use grinding or leech as example either way u want. U train or leech for hr, you want to take a short break, how u keep the map while u taking the break. Or like you got a urgent call between, how u suppose to hold the map while on the phone. So i guess just pray nobody show up and take away the mapowner from you?

As i said earlier, unless we remove mapowner thing completely from this server, else there will always people afk holding map.

 

Who’s talking about leech did uever tried to get a female boss map? There’s a good person 1 person who literally take over 5channels for him self,it’s not abuse?

yes pls remove the map owner

 

It's not abuse if it's working as intended. There really isn't a better way to resolve map ownership than clear cut rules. Reducing the time would only serve to ruin the quality of life of people who play for longer hours. It won't increase the turnover, it'll just force people to be glued to their computer for hours on end.
Like I said before, the issue right now isn't that people are holding onto maps to use later. That is a result of the bigger issue that people fear not having a map when they need it. This needs to be addressed first, otherwise any changes implemented will just continue to move the problem around to the next 'solution'.

This is an issue with the higher level leech/grind spots like Skeles/Petris/5-6 where there aren't any comparable alternatives outside of bossing.

Edit: Another thing to think about - it seems like a lot of map balance is currently focused on 50-120, but for a 2x exp server, the average lifespan of a player seems to be from levels 100-150, skewed higher due to the exp boosts. Because of this, I think there needs to be more available higher level content. Nothing game breaking because it'll just bring about power creep. Instead, I think there needs to be a set standard of exp gain to which other maps/regions should be balanced around, and nuanced depending on map layout, mob type, mob count, etc to give a variety of party styles.

 

lets remove map ownership guys...! Came into this server to ks ppl with mage ult because back in the day a bishop would ks me wherever I went because he didn't like what I said. And now I kind of want to experience being the ksing mage.. but every server seems to have some stupid ksing map owner rule...

 

https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/gradually-decreasing-mapowner-time-threshold.32150/

A flat 2 minutes sounds like a miserable experience for anyone with any responsibilities outside of 2003 mushroom game.

I'd rather see something like RegalStars suggestion by lowering in stages.

Or a different system where an attack that makes a kill adds 15 seconds to your mapowner timer, so you'd need to kill for ~90-120 seconds to fully charge map ownership.