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The Art of Optimization: Liberating the Gloves Slot

Discussion in 'MapleLegends Journeys' started by kiwiz, Jul 23, 2023.

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    Logged in to a free 3.8mil meso in the same room as my store.
    Easily sold for 6mil.

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    Also sold my last 1/3 goggles, bringing down my meso spent on goggles to 100mil to make my 1/4 goggles.
    I think break even? Or might worth 120-150mil for 1/4, not quite sure.

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    Back to another hour of dual DGP farming with Bishop + Shadower.
    The earnings were consistent as always, even without any good stat rolls on any of the equips.

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    34 equip drops from 1 hour of Bishop + Shadower farming at Dual Ghost Pirate.
    About 1 equip drop every 1 min 46 sec.


    Result


    3.2mil raw meso
    5.9mil from drops
    33 Power Crystal Ores, ~825k
    1 Cape INT 60%, ~500k

    Roughly 10.4mil from an hour of Bishop + Shadower farm.


    Gacha from 2 common, 1 rare:

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    An extra 3.5mil-ish from gacha.
     
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    Nice gains, DGP are way too comfy to grind as shad :). Have you considered trying Memory Lane 5 yet? I think it could be a solid alternative if you can 2-shot there.
     
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    Right now I’m trying to hunt for drops to scroll from dgp cuz the market’s so bare, particularly green pirate blouses and skirts.

    It’s the only thing keeping me playing now. Usually by this time I’d have stop cause I enjoy a healthy market, not the current crappy state.

    Edit:
    Oh ye, I did tried farming at ML5 last time it's decent.
     
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    Previously I’ve estimated making 1/4 goggle with 3-slots 1/2 to be around 164mil if the average price is 25mil.

    However, I bought 5 of them at the average of 32mil, which brings the expected cost to 205mil. The expected item usage is 6.5, and I’ve used 5, so it exceeded the expectation (in the sense that it’s favorable).

    The survival rate after 3x30% is 27.46% (thanks to my godly calculator, and SubterlaborSubterlabor for suggesting this meaningful computation), having 4 out of 5 survived goggles greatly favored over the expectation of 1.373 out of 5.

    I’ve spent 162mil total, and recovered 62mil from the sales of three 1/3. So overall it’s a very good outcome.

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    Made it more clear cuz of double meanings with “exceed expectation”.
     
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    This would've saved me from all the trouble scrolling.
    I could buy it and try CSS it... (I bought it).

    Haven't figure out the math with CSS20 but I read somewhere that 30%/CSS20 per slot is about 34%.
    I'll decide what to do with it once I've make sense of the calculations.

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    Put up my own 1/4 with extra 2 speed for sale so it doesn't seem like I'm merching it off annoyedmush
    and see how it goes.

    DGP farming. No max roll drops, only a 6/1 and 6/0 Green Pirate Blouse.
    I might still try 30% the first slot in attempt to scroll for 15 str.

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    30 equip drops from an hour of Shadower + Bishop farming at DGP,
    1 drop every 2 min.


    Result


    3mil raw meso
    5mil from drops
    42 Power Crystal Ores, ~1mil
    1 Gun ATT 30%, ~1mil
    2 Cape INT 60%, ~1mil

    Roughly 11mil from an hour of Bishop + Shadower farm.


    Gacha from 3 common:

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    I've done some expected cost calculation for scrolling Green Pirate Blouse for +15 str and Skirt for +15 dex.
    These 2 seems to be the most cost effective for 1 more dex, with estimated cost of about 250mil and 400mil.

    However, have to consider the expected amount of 28 pieces each...,
    but since I only need either of them, it's actually a combination of 28 total.

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    Above table assumes that each blouse is worth 5mil,
    topwear str 30% and 70% scrolls to be 2mil each.

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    Above table assumes that each skirt is worth 5mil,
    btmwear dex 30% scrolls to be 6mil each and 70% scrolls to be 3.5mil each.
     
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    Boom update:

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    All gone.

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    Bought a couple of 2 str navy socks at 1-3mil each,
    considering scrolling for 14 dex to open up a 3/1 goggles option.

    Nothing much in the FM now, very unfortunate.
     
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    Didn't note down how long I've farmed at DGP, probably 1hr+.
    Now just focusing on hunting for Green Pirate Blouses, specifically for 6 dex ones.

    I've decided to settle with any 6 dex blouse and scroll to 15 str for now,
    since str scrolled thief top don't worth much anyway.

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    Lots of drops, but no 6 dex, much sad.
    I will now record only the blouse drops, since the drops and earnings are generally quite consistent even for short period (1hr) of time most of the time so there's nothing new.

    Including the previous two 6 dex blouses:

    6/1 - failed 30%
    6/0 - passed 30%, boom 70%
    4/0
    5/2
    5/2
    4/2
    4/2
    5/0
    5/1

    6 dex: 2
    5 dex: 4
    4 dex: 3
     
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    Another quick session of DGP, maybe 50min-ish?
    3 blouse drops, sadly no 6 dex.

    5/0
    5/1
    5/0

    6 dex: 2
    5 dex: 7
    4 dex: 3
     
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    If you put in store I might buy. Not priority for now though.

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    Bought another 1/2 at 35mil to try for 1/5. Expensive!

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    Yeah... just dummy scrolling this... no problem!
    So now I'm ready to CSS20 the 1/4 goggles I bought at 100m.

    I've gotten a couple of CSS20 at 8mil each 2 days ago,

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    ...and made this table to compute whatever it is for CSS3 and CSS20.
    I'm not gona explain the numbers too much because I don't even know what they mean.

    Basically, taking 5 attempts, would mean there is is overall pass rate of 12.996% for CSS3, but also an overall boom rate of 25.212% till this point.
    Looking at 9 attempts for CSS3, the pass to boom is 20.8% to 40.352%. If scaled to CSS20 of 20% to 40%, is 40.352 / 20.8 x 20 = 38.8.
    So CSS3 has a pass to boom of 20% to 38.8%, as compared to CSS20's 20% to 40%.

    As for the cost I've put 700k each for CSS3, the price during Anniversary Event.
    But currently they are at least 1.5mil each, so the price would be around 13.5mil, rather than 6.3mil, for 9 attempts at 20.8% overall pass.
    CSS20 is around 8-10mil each at 20% pass.

    So in conclusion, CSS3 has slightly better pass to boom rate while CSS20 has much better pricing currently.

    ANYWAY...

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    FARK!






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    Sooooo... I've actually bought this 6 dex Rat Mouth as well at 60m,
    after noticing that there's 3 failed slot available for CSS potential.
    (I took the SS after I've bought it.)

    Here we go! mariomush

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    Yeah finally! But it's not over YET. Bought a Face Avo 30% scroll...

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    Let's GOOOOO! angrymushwarmushMapleF5

    I think this sells for at least 250mil meso.

    Some damage assessment:

    -35mil for clean 1/2 goggles
    -100mil for 1/4 goggles
    -32mil for 4x CSS20 scrolls
    -60mil for 6 dex Rat Mouth
    -10mil for Face Avo 30% scroll

    Total damage: -237mil meso.

    Small gain.
     
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    Find that it's not easy to replace the 4 lost str if I were to equip the 13 dex 3 luk Brown Osfa Boots.

    Decided to sell it for 70 PCoins, previously bought at 200mil, and made a small profit of around 30mil.

    Now looking into either 1/5 goggles, 9 dex face, 15/6 blouse or 19 dex skirt.
     
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    More DGP farming for Green Pirate Blouses and Skirts.

    Blouse:
    4/2
    6/0 - passed 30%, 3x70%, failed 70% on 5th slot
    6/1 - failed 30%

    6 dex: 4
    5 dex: 7
    4 dex: 4

    Skirt:
    bought 4/2 - failed 30%
    4/0 - passed 30%, 2x70%, failed 70% on 4th slot
    2/1
    4/1 - failed 30%

    4 dex: 2
    3 dex: 0
    2 dex: 1

    Attempts: 4 blouses, 3 skirts
    (expected attempts of 28 to pass 1x30%, 6x70%)

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    Ayoo? Leveling up soon. Gotta equip my INT gears... what? You don't wana see my INT gears? Okay.

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    Some of them were scraps from my past profit scrolling.
    Stolen Fence I bought a 4-slots, 2 int 3 ma at 5mil and managed to pass 4x70%.

    After equip is 303 INT total.

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    MP washed and reset to LUK. MW20, Echo, Coke Pill.

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    And I sold the Rat Mouth for 100 pcoins.

    Earned about 85mil meso after accounting the damages from the same scrolling session.

    decent gain.
     
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    Last session of not sure how long for the day.

    Blouse:
    5/1

    6 dex: 4
    5 dex: 8
    4 dex: 4

    I'm not gona scroll anymore skirt less than perfect, so no more records for skirts.

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    A while ago, I bought a TMA 170 Wand 5 for my F/P for 100mil using my reserves,
    and also bought the 1/4 goggles and rat mouth for 100mil and 60mil.

    Can't remember what else I spent on but it's missing a chunk! So I'm topping it back up to 2bil.

    This leaves me with with about 184mil meso and 70 pcoins,
    totalling to about 409mil worth of meso outside my reserves, hopefully enough to make blouse or skirt.
     
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    Found a clean 2/2 goggles selling at 50mil, which usually go for around 75mil.
    Probably not gona scroll it and should easily fetch at least 65mil for a small profit.

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    Same shop with some cheap scrolls. Thanks for the small pocket meso :^D

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    Getting low on meso after the goggles purchase so I'm selling my coins off.

    Back to blouse/skirt drop hunting at DGP.

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    Generous equip drops as usual.
    You peeps should farm here too so I can buy blouses and skirts from you.

    Got a 6/2 blouse and 4/2 skirt...

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    blouse:
    6/2 - boomed 30%

    6 dex: 5
    5 dex: 8
    4 dex: 4

    skirt:
    4/2 - boomed 30%

    Attempts: 5 blouses, 4 skirts

    Previously I had a 4/0 skirt that failed 70% on the 4th slot:

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    Still have it with me and happened to have a btmwear dex 60% scroll,
    so decided to scroll it.

    60% scrolls are cheaper, usually I get them at 2mil or below each.
    70% I get them at 3mil or below each.

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    It passed the 60%. Went FM and purchased 2 more 60%,
    and passed both of them as well.

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    Became +6, 17 dex, 1 failed slot. Decided to use the remaining css20 I had with me...

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    ...guess I did it?!! surprisedmush... angrymushwarmushMapleF5

    Although it's not on a perfect skirt, I'm still pretty satisfied with the result,
    especially because how hard it is to get them in the market right now.

    I can always come back and hunt for more while I collect cheaper scrolls,
    and also wait for more skirts to appear in the market to scroll another.


    Now for the damage assessment:

    price for 6/2 blouses and 4/2 skirts: -20mil
    5x topwear str 30%: -6mil
    9x topwear str 70%: -14mil
    4x btmwear dex 30%: -20mil
    4x btmwear dex 70%: -11mil
    3x btmwear dex 60%: -6mil
    1x css20: -8mil

    Total damage: -85mil

    I think the 19 dex skirt should sell for 80-100mil easily,
    so it's actually not that bad.

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    Now both my cape and gloves slots are free! smilemush

    My next upgrade could be:
    7wa Pink Adv Cape -> 8wa Cape, at ~1bil meso
    5dex, 4luk, 11wa Blue Anelin -> 14wa Gloves, at ~600mil meso​

    I can finally take a break from farming DGP for now.

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    That’s not what you said.

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    Will find a replacement eventually if I see the opportunity.

    Right now probably look for a 14wa gloves, 8wa cape or 32wa dkhanjar, each should cost around 1bil or less, IF I am looking for an upgrade.

    I’m already quite happy with my Shadower and is considering trying out a ranged character.

    Was checking the estimated production cost of 14wa BWG and the first slot with 60% and 70% is already the same.

    So to make 14wa optimally is to just slam 70% all the way.

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    With the amount of dex on those, it seems perfectly fine :)
     
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    You should consider buying a 16 attack glove that I just so happen to be selling ;)
     
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    But I don’t have 730 coins crymush just a filthy casual.
     
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    Gona take my ML break. Cya in a few months’ to years’ time.
     
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