Melee vs Ranged.

I really enjoy my Hero, I choose to play it over my BM/DK which are arguably higher tier classes. My point with that comment is that IMO the fantasy that attracts players to Hero is to be a self sufficient adventurer that doesn’t need 2mil NX or 3 separate clients and a bunch of party buffs. I do not think Hero really needs to be any better at bossing, because that’s not their niche. However, lacking mobility and range really does hurt Hero’s ability to adventure, you simply cannot cover as much area. Furthermore, adding some dash to silvermane IMO truly does not upset the balance of the character roster because late game players would just whip out a mage to farm things if they really wanted to.

NL is much better at searching for area bosses, taking down large numbers of low level mobs, hitting mobs that are spread out, farming maps that have a lot of parkour. Hero also has a hard time using CC/FM teleport tricks to traverse maps because they can’t turn invisible to de-aggro mobs. Questing is another pain point, it’s simply better to move faster. These are all activities that someone who is drawn to the self-sufficiency of warrior likely wants to do.

 

As I told you in discord, I am relative new here, but i always heard peoples used warrior to grind at tot before multi mages, so i tought about farm mesos, about low lv card u have reason

 

I understand alot of this points as a warrior

 

NL isn't

i think bucc is generally regarded as the best class tbh

 

There is room to argue between NL and bucc, but corsair certainly is not in the same tier anymore

 

As another perspective, if we viewed Melees through the lens of being economic tools like mages rather than poor-man's attackers, they could be quite strong without threatening the niche of ranged bossers if ML added some map changes to provide the opportunity. Frankly if anything, I feel like Mages overshadow Cleavers in the meta more-so than ranged attackers do because they are also easy to build but deal a shocking amount of single target DPM, are even preferable to cleavers in many bosses, level even faster than Warriors, and entirely outclass cleavers in money-making potential.

But, imagine if we could spawn both daily instance bosses like Rav/Pap/JC/Nameless at the same time, this would immediately give cleavers a niche that no other class can contest.

We could also have more maps with a small number of very tanky mobs on a flat surface that drop items that are valuable and difficult to attain for other classes (as opposed to raw mesos/NPC-ables which just add to inflation). We do have Iruvatas / Rextons / After-lords / Crimson Guardians / NTPQ / a few other things that come to mind, but IME those maps are both harder to farm and less lucrative than basically any other money-making activity I could be doing instead.