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Potions cost renewal

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Motto, Jun 4, 2021.

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  1. Motto
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    Hello all.
    I am here to discuss the ever-going love we have for % HP/MP pots coming from NLC.
    [​IMG] Oh no this tomato wants to ruin my shop

    (not putting sushi because else I'll get shitfaced by DK mains, but I'll just say the price of 3k for a 20% HP/MP is fine)

    Right now the most important pots being used (> LVL 14x) :

    [​IMG] Mana bull (60% MP) @ 2800 meso
    [​IMG] Hornster (60% HP) @ 2800 meso
    [​IMG] Ginseng Root (40% HP/MP) @ 2100 meso
    [​IMG] Ginger Ale (75% HP/MP) @ 3800 meso


    And, in retrospect more less used pots with % HP/MP :
    [​IMG] Mushroom Miso Ramen (80% HP/MP) @ 12000 meso
    [​IMG] Mapleade (90% HP/ 80% MP, +2wa) @ 15000 meso


    We can see how, by determining the price of 100% HP/MP the NLC pots are being undersold by our friendly Miki.

    I'd argue that, by using a MM Ramen as the standard price (given mapleade has +2wa in its effects).
    We can see, with very simple proportionality that

    80% HP/MP (0.8) : 12000 = 100% HP/MP (1) : Y
    Y = 1*12000 / 0.8 = 15000 meso

    By placing a standard price of 15k meso for a full HP/MP pot we can see how this goes correctly in comparison to a very friendly looking pot the DKs use :
    [​IMG] Triangular Sushi(plum) (20% HP/MP) @ 3000 meso

    Why is this pot correct?
    Because at 20% we are looking at well... 20% of the 15000 meso price => 15000 * 0.2 = 3000 meso

    For this reason my proposal is to increase the NLC pots to this new standard :

    Thanks to Luu for another small nugget that I was forgetting about the 1:2 ratio for HP/MP pots in general.

    [​IMG] Mana Bull 2800 meso => 4500 6000 meso (given its only %MP so possible 10000 meso for 100% MP)
    [​IMG] Hornster 2800 meso => 4500 3000 meso (given its only %HP so possible 5000 meso for 100% HP)

    Hornster might be better at 3k meso increase (slight 0.07%) and wouldn't be hurting attacker classes much. (4500 meso is still a possibility but wouldn't stand to the 1:2 HP/MP ratio of normal pots)

    [​IMG] Ginseng Root 2100 meso => 6000 meso
    [​IMG] Ginger Ale 3800 meso => 11250 meso

    At the moment we can see the price of 100% HP/MP in ML being around the 5k meso range which is fairly low.
    At this point Sushi for 20% HP/MP would be costing 1000 meso per piece... too cheap.

    By using Sushi and Miso Ramen as the standards for 100% HP/MP we would be seeing an increase from the 5k meso range to 15k meso.

    Market wise the increased cost of NLC pots would be increasing the cost of Power Elixir (given its 100% HP/MP effect).
    Meso sink : Check

    Possible increased cost of boss runs and boss items in market.
    Leeching expenses increased, so is scroll costs from grinding.

    Idk, take what I said with a pinch of salt and think about it.
    Peace
     
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