Warrior Warrior Damage Comparison [Neo Tokyo vers]

Obviously we need dummies with higher defense for interval testing. Have you tried doing a test si/echo/whatever else, and then a second with se added in? Should be able to pretty easily compare the damage differences between zerked and non-zerked versions of each. If se applies before the boost, it should get scaled up too. Likewise if it doesnt, the change in damage should be relatively similar. It might very well be calculated differently than ayumilove claims, but that would change quite a bit of understanding of damage calculation.

 

Interesting ... I'm curious to know how the other two melee classes fare, since it would make sense to compare them all, especially with the recent shadower changes.

 

oop, new one is accurate. Nice work

 

Thanks for sharing! Is the red katana dpm lower than all the NT swords + ST sword?

 

The 1h dragon wep comes up short against the rk as it's fast (5) compared to the rk's fast (4). The difference in speed makes it such a lower w.a. rk typically outperforms the higher w.a. dragon 1h.
The NT 1h on the other hand is fast (4), making it the same speed as the rk with a much higher base w.a. Provided you can reach the dex, the 1h NT sword will have better dpm.

 

Are these Paladin numbers including the elemental weak multiplier or is this just fire charge on a neutral monster?

 

Epic. I'm going Paladin.

 

Would it be possible for you to make a Hero dpm comparison between red katana, ST and dragon claymore with and without SI?

 

THIS please!

 

Nise would it be possible for you to add a section for these calc's using 20 attack potion? This is a very common scenario in bossing that might show the viability of the lower multipler 1h weapons.

 

I forgot I was gonna comment on this thread a little while back...

While I was creating my DPM chart with normal attack pots (cider and perf gear/lvl 200), I noticed a few things that dark knights might want to know:
-NT spear and Sky Skis do basically the same damage on cider (NT spear is 0.3% stronger)
-If the Pink Bean equips come out, the Reverse/Timeless Spears will be stronger than Sky Skis (2.2% stronger)
-Sky Skis are still stronger than both spears on high attack pots (NT comparison above; 0.7% stronger than Reverse/Timeless Spear)
*the comparisons hold for all cases (booster, SI, SE, SE/SI)

My point is that with NT weapons being so easy to craft now, NT is actually a viable (possibly better for most cases) option. Neither the NT spear nor the Reverse/Timeless Spears need a buff.

 

What gear is being used on your calcs? I plugged my gear (48 attack from non-weapon) into Nise's sheet and perfect NT beats perfect ski until SI is used which makes ski slightly better but they're practically equal. The turning point for me was around 40-41 attack which is where ski started to beat NT with SI. In the end they're close enough together that it doesn't really matter which one a DK chooses. The availability for NT spear will probably be quite low for a while though. I doubt many people will craft one when other classes get a very clear benefit over previous weapons (2h NT vs claymore for example).

 

*It says blue crescent shoes, but it's supposed to be a 7 att red christmas sock

Cider:


Gelt:


If something looks off, please let me know!

 

TFW when a level 85 spear is still used to compare against end game spears for most bossing scenarios...

 

Speed 7 is still garbage and it shouldn't be used. When you get high enough all normal mobs are 1ko anyways, even up to Skelesauruses. So speed 7 will just slow down your kills. No speed 7 spear is strong enough to 2ko the mobs at 7f either, so those kills are also slower.

You also have a lot less control over your character in bossing situations. The extra time spent casting Crusher leaves you more open to failure for many dodge-able attacks, like for jumping over ice in HT prehead 1, or for up-rope buffering prehead 2, or for any ducking in Vergamot, or reaching the rope quicker if you're sed target in HT. It's also easier to jump attack on HT's left side as speed increases.

It's been known that the damage is about equivalent, but even then you're still losing out on a lot more versatility by going speed 7 and it's overall a pepega move. NT spear is still a 'don't craft' tier weapon.

 

Alyosha I'm not a drk, so I'll take your word for it lol