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Information September 2023 Balance Changes [Explained]

Discussion in 'Update Notes' started by Nise, Sep 11, 2023.

  1. Karn
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    so funny how ppl decide to get the "non budgeted class" and cry after has to pay the same for attack potions as "budgeted classes"

    that's called Recoil Shot
     
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    There's hermits that use potions?

    Moral of the story: Don't make NL unless you have 15b to throw around. You don't actually out damage anybody and all you do is get nerfed.
    Source: 19x NL who gets whited by funded BMs.
     
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    Lol but i pay and use same apples as before wym ?
    its not even very effective nerf for the individual NL ..
    its just evry balance change in the past years i play everyone trying balance that class and put it as the best class in the game what could be true long time ago,
    But those days with alot of content added i find it far behind many classes in many scenarios... but still in a good spot to deside remove its passive KEK

    I just realy think that server have too many ppl hate that class for no real reson and have no good point or real suggest for balance or objective sight , just satisfaction to see NL of the bottom at the end OnionPerfect
     
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  4. fartsy
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    nl is still budget class

    comparing to bucc just doesn’t work bc of the political winds
     
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    Wait... did this mean that drop rates on every single mage skill was nerfed across the board until this change?

    Are you telling me that I decided to do a self-imposed challenge a year or so ago that revolved around getting particular enemy drops, only to have chosen to do so with a class where drop rates were reduced across the board?

    No wonder it was so miserable.
     
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  6. -ovv
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    You also get whited by funded NLs. :V
     
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  7. beegoratto
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    The secret to getting whited is the alcohol
     
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  8. Daydreamer
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    How is this change fair to DK mains?
     
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  9. fartsy
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    hello, actual dk main here

    this won't affect my gamplay
     
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  10. CaptainNemo
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    Are you implying that DRoar didn't need an adjustment?
     
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  11. Daydreamer
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    I'm implying this change will hit DK mains just as hard as multi-DK.
     
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    I'd find it extremely odd if your sole grinding strat was just spamming DRoar, but I'm not a DK main. Any DK mains able to weigh in? I don't see how adjusting the drop rate of a skill that needed to be addressed seriously impacts those in late game stages of gameplay. Please elaborate more on how this will impact DK mains.
     
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    It affects DKs who trained at CDs with roar during 3rd job. It also hurts those who used a DK to card hunt.
     
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  14. fartsy
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    hello i own 4 dks, spend significant time on them, and own a +7 ski (3 off). i have more dks than i have mages or bowmasters.

    this affects my gameplay as my sole attacking skill is roar. my dks have already been rejected off zak runs by beegorattobeegoratto. i think i do good damage in arms phase.
     
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    How different is roar training/farming at CD's compared to PA Fury training in terms of EPH and damage? Also don't see this a downside, considering what type of skill roar is. Drop rate nerf for the type of skill it is seems like a worthy trade off than just having it continue to be a problem.
     
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    as a Crusader currently at 107 trying to slowly make my way through the ToT questline to get some XP, big fan of the xp rate changes for those mobs! I was actually trying to fight Thanatos and Gatekeeper last week to test their xp, so its interesting those two mobs are getting changed. I will probably go to leafre and try fighting rextons once i am done with the ToT 999 kill quests
     
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    Can you also nerf night lord avoid and shadow shifter so we can actually use the alchemist gutting.
     
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    That's not the case, as multi-DK exclusively uses Dragon Roar to farm, whilst DK mains don't. Roaring on a DK main is still possible, it's still good for what it's supposed to do (bringing your HP down quickly to zerk, hitting a large portion of the map, aggroing/killing adds in boss fights, etc.). It's just mildly less efficient at farming. The way it's been addressed means you can still use any other DK skill to farm as well, fury/crusher still has the same drop rates as pre-patch.

    It affects both, that being said card hunting on DK was by very far the best way to card hunt in the game. Now it's closer to the rest of the jobs.
     
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    Regardless of the balance changes. I’m just happy I can still play old school Maple.
     
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    It's very unfortunate that the skill was balanced for the extreme cases, which I also don't feel is fully justified. It's entirely possible that Shadower's Boomerang Step could be subjected to the same nerf, as players can multi-client Shadowers and position them in various corners of the map, hitting all when they spawn. I/Ls could do the same with Chain Lightning now.

    If this kind of balance continues, it will further diminish the value of self-farming. Players who can't always commit long hours at any time to selling leech or bossing may end up earning less than what's currently considered one of the lowest-income options.
     
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