Maplelegends is hostile to new and unestablished players.

Would nullifying leech at this point really cause such outrage?
It seems worth closely examining the risk/reward on this.

 

OPQ/PPQ was buffed, i would love to see LPQ exp buffed as well. it sucks having an entire lvl 35-40 party in LPQ and none of us can hit alishar LOL. because honestly, the exp isnt TOO bad, but it could be increased :3 Hiyo and i have talked about it before as well. after running LPQs a bit

 

PQs arent the issue, its finding the people

 

thx GM, i thought gm nise wouldnt reply.
so whats going to happen then? if i remember correctly you arent changing your stance on washing and the communitys opinion of leech meta is divided as if it was politics. but at the same time it looks like youre losing customers from your competition at this rate if anything isnt done. i havent tried royals since 2016-2017ish, but croosades is honestly really good, and i wouldnt be surprised if new players on legends jumped to croosades shortly after. if it doesnt hurt to ask what are some of the options you've considered which doesnt involve a wipe?

 

Another issue is that I think it isn't advertised enough that the PQs were buffed (a loooot of new players never check the forums). Many players don't go to PQs because they assume others players won't be there and they assume they will get garbage exp anyways. Could you make a MapleTip advertising that OPQ/PPQ were buffed? It could help this issue. Also as you have mentioned, not everyone PQed in GMS and they might not even know about/forgot about OPQ/PPQ/LMPQ etc.

I think PPQ gives good exp now from 55-70, competitive with GS2 grinding if you have a good party, but OPQ needs to be buffed further. You may have given it 6 buffs now (Which tells you how garbage it was in GMS, hence why no one has nostalgia for it) but it is a long PQ that needs more of a reward for finding 4 other players that don't dc/mess up halfway through (and if you don't know what you're doing you could ruin a OPQ run and you need to quit & re-enter).

Because no staff member wants to tell me anything about MPQ (like if you even want to add it eventually) which would be good exp (210k per run in GMS, so at least 420k per run here) for lv71-85 (which are heavily-leeched levels), PPQ could also give additional exp for players lv70-100 as many others in this thread and elsewhere have suggested.

LMPQ is also dead and could use a buff, as well as maybe lowering the party requirement to 2 people (this would make it more appealing and really only 2 people are necessary).

These changes I am proposing aren't intended to make the game easier, they are meant to encourage PQing which helps build community. As a new player I made 90% of my friends by PQing and we made our own guild with the people we met at PQs. I wouldn't still be on this server if it wasn't for that community and the monster book. The more opportunities for this to happen for other new players, the better, we can all agree.

I agree but I think any 'examination' is going to be the leech-sellers screaming to not get rid of it because 'muh economy' even though leech prices are already tanking, meaning even more players are going to choose to buy leech now.

 

Is this thread really achieving anything except dividing a small community even more?

Spoiler: hmph

All i see are people complaining back and fourth without any real, viable solutions. This topic has been visited, and revisted, and revisted time and time again. People are treating each other like shit throughout the thread, some calling each other out which in regular threads would get censored instantly. Almost every post has been written in a passive aggressive way or straight up aggressive manner.

Id also like to add, staff is currently recruiting a developer. Why? because currently they are lacking one or have some with certain talents but are missing in other areas. What does this mean? Well idk, you can keep begging for PQs such as MPQ (WHICH HAS BEEN ASKED FOR FOR YEARS) but without anyone to code it, theyre limited.

I dont want to seem like a bitch here, but this thread is getting no where.

 

Since you're a former staff member you probably have the insight: so you can confirm the reason MPQ is not added is because it still needs to be coded? I have been asking and no one will give me an answer to such a simple question

 

I havent been staff for over a year hense why i dont know if people on staff currently have skills that arent being advertised. But if you look at the staff list, youll see. No developers. Except navi who has been MIA for 2 years.

 

I get the "it's too late to fix" but it's like, in the grand scheme of things everybody wants the server to keep going right? So let's say ML goes on for at least another 3 years, if there is a change now for whatever mechanic then in 3 years it would be a decision that was made halfway into the server's lifetime. I think last year this was the same argument for keeping hp-washing the same but monster book ring made it more bearable which is v nice and honestly it's not that bad unless you're aiming for like HB-less toad or something like that.
The only issue is if this is the best decision, and it's not guaranteed that the decision wouldn't shorten the server's lifetime.

But staff has always gone through with decisions that they thought would be best for the server's health, despite outrage so I don't really think not fixing or tweaking or providing a small alternative to a dumb mechanic due to outrage should matter.

I actually don't remember how much you get from leeching every 30 minutes but I thought boosting PQ xp to reach maybe 50~70% of 2 hit leech would be nice but this would be really really iffy since it'd need to be based off avg leech xp and PQs have a decently sized level range + amount of time to complete varies.

jw, did HT ever get reverted back to actually being difficult or is it still GMS-like? I think there's a huge discrepancy between what's considered difficult in this server and what's just time consuming. HT (if it's still changed 2 be GMS) is a big sack of hp that's just time-consuming, not difficult. Not having apples would only make it take more time.

it usually turns out like this... there were some nice posts but most of them boiled down to "if you can't handle the way the server meta is, then quit"

 

I wish fixing apples would be this easy. Apples as a reward from APQ is a key factor from old school MS and would feel misplaced if it were removed. On top of that, the item is so heavily treasured by high level players that Kimmy and staff would end up with an entirely new wave of outrage with this aggressive of a change.

Here's a thought (though I'm not sure if it's possible to code). What about a 1 hour restriction per use on apples (time-leapable). Here's why:
- This would significantly effect its impact to major functions (bossing) without inherently changing the item.
- The feel of this change is less massive and gives the impression that the original content has been preserved.
- It gives a buccs an extra avenue for usefulness in the bossing realm.