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An Urge to Remove the Multi-Client Boss Restrictions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TTKirnk, Jun 20, 2020.

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    +1 for getting rid of MC ban.
    I haven't gone bossing in awhile because event/cardhunting, but I'm really not looking forward to having to set up another monitor and my old desktop just to boss the way that is comfortable for me. It's a huge waste of energy/effort with no community benefit, and if anything, the changes causes a deterrent from bossing rather than encouraging 'inclusion'.

    Can anybody in the community speak out in favor of the changes? Have you noticed any change in being included in runs?
     
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    tbh. alot of people (in my opinion) have given up on most bosses besides HT due to people undercutting everything xD. Zak is now a joke, people selling helms at 1~5m.
     
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    And, this in my opinion, is why the "old guard" doesn't want the admins to get rid of HP washing. It would remove one of the biggest barriers to doing HT and remove its exclusivity causing a drop in prices (i.e. a few groups wont be controlling the market anymore).
     
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    The biggest barrier to HT is the 2 hour timer, and we didn't ask for that one.
     
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    That's why I said "one" of the biggest barriers.
     
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    A few groups don't control the market anyways.

    upload_2020-6-23_21-7-44.png

    That's 3 pages of Genesis 30 books, in total 28 books were listed in FM. There are many, many different HT groups which makes it a competitive market.
     
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    I'm probably wrong about the # of groups (going by what I was told from someone else), but that owl search doesn't necessarily prove anything. A few groups with a decent amount of people doing a lot of HT runs overtime could fill that. Regardless, without HP washing there would be more books on the market.
     
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    And how is that good to have that many books on the market? How would you earn money to get endgame gear?
     
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    I don't see the logic here. No hp washing means less people to run horntail. Less people means less runs. Less runs means less drops. Less drops means less books. Less books with the same demand means higher prices. So no hp washing => more expensive and less ht books on the market.
    It's not like without hp washing, no one needs ht books anymore.

    Disclaimer: I didn't read the thread as TL;DR
     
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    More books means they become cheaper and more accessible. If this caused the majority of players to no longer have funds to purchase end game gear the market would naturally adjust. I'm not advocating for making the game easier, just removing a mechanic that was not utilized extensively in GMS and creates a high barrier of entry to comfortably play large parts of the game.

    I mean without HP washing I though it was pretty obvious that it would be replaced with an alternative method to gaining HP. Fixing this issue would would literally take less than 1 minute of the devs time in addition to the time needed to calculate a balanced curve.

    One of the head devs, who I think retired in the past, has posted the code on the forums years ago showing how HP is given at every level. The fix is as simple as changing a couple numbers in some lines of code.
     
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