Make Dragon Roar require a fixed HP amount instead of HP %

Why not start with matching the drop rate of roar to mage ults

 

For those who are clicking agree or disagree of this thread, would love to hear more about why you did so! akashsky thanks for getting the ball rolling on this discussion. The community feedback is very helpful.

 

I am curious as to the reasoning having a more durable mage is too strong, especially, as mentioned, things like 30k NLs exist which are strong enough to be meta defining.

If it’s a muling problem, I’m curious as to which fights they are being muled on and whether that practice will be removed with the removal of beginner washing or if people will simply continue to do so with less HP.

If it’s a pot efficiency problem, I’d like to see some numbers comparing beginner mage pot costs to 30k NL pot costs.

Otherwise, I struggle to see the justification for denying one class extra HP when such HP is so easily accessible to other classes at a significantly reduced cost both in terms of effort, SP, and NX.

 

Hey man it's so that mage mules don't replace mage mains

 

There's no replacing you Edann

 

i use 1k powers every pb since i just leave my pots at 80%

Only way i die is no mg + zombified if not 1/1s

 

That’s a lot of PEs holy shit

 

3m vs my mental booming

i am at heart a true casual player

 

same

 

Seems like a step in the right direction and caters more to 'normal build' DKs that want to manage their HP more consistently. Not sure why people are so opposed to it when, in practice, it should be the same thing for most DKs with some added utility.

A couple things to maybe consider:

• Will using Dragon Roar during active Zerk bring your HP down to 1?
• Since using Dragon Roar doesn't give you iframes, isn't it possible to get combo'd into a death?
• Should Dragon Roar give iframes? This could be another area of counter-play that allow for DKs to dodge stuns/seds instead of purposely taking touch damage.

These points are aside from the beginner mage controversy and are more specific towards the DK changes.

 

Consider adjusting Dragon Roar's damage and HP reduction percentage by a factor dependent on the user's maximum HP. If the skill is maxed and the user has 30k HP, only then does Dragon Roar unleash its full potential. I don't think beginner DKs should be barred from using the skill entirely, but it would certainly dismantle the farming strat if Dragon Roar had to be used 6 or 7 times to kill anything of note. I think it fits stylistically as well, given the overarching theme of DKs sacrificing their life blood for power. If a DK is constitutionally weak to begin with, then there isn't much to power to be gained through sacrifice.

 

Roar would only need to do like 10 damage to multidk farm as snails have the same gacha and NX drop rate as other maps. PP1 is already a meta map as is.

 

Then cut the number of mobs hit as well. Base 3, max 15.

 

rawr x3

 

Make it cost 7k HP and call it a day.

 

Agreed, 7k so that fresh lvl~70 can’t even cast it without hb

 

I do agree multiroar farming meta is broken somehow but a bit worried for OPs suggestion can hit 3rd job drk players grinding in cd map so hard, which is very common nowadays.

 

^ this