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MP Washing Calculator

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by s0mething, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. s0mething
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    Target audience: People who are scrambling for HP, because they either started washing really late or they want more HP than they initially intended.

    For those who are creating new characters and know your desired HP, please check out yogurtseller's Guide to Low Base Int MP washing.


    Instructions: Please make a copy/duplicate of the original sheet "Calculator" and edit the YELLOW cells only. If you dont know how to make a duplicate, please look at the attached image. For now, the calculations are solely based on stale HP gains, not regular.

    Link to Calculator:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QdzRaByJDMyBUgMiaS99j8NZ1daG_WuJ5t3njaOzWkg/edit#gid=0

    HP washing is optional. If you're unsure of whether to hp wash or what HP to wash to, here's a link to my other post: Should you HP wash?

    P.S. Ignore the poor formatting. I lazy.
     

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    This is an awesome calculator!! TY so much :)
     
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    \o/ Thanks for the help
     
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    Unwashed HP should be excess MP given the formula you're using
    and multiply by 18 instead of 16 for HP washes needed (single wash since your excess MP is high enough)
    HP washes needed should also be at least 159. 18*62.125 =1118
    NX to MP wash also needs to multiply by levels remaining

    Also if you single wash from 140 to 165 given those stats you'd end up with 8.8k hp and an excess of 642 mp. Ratio from mp to hp is 4:3 so you can get 9.4k without equips by then at the cost of 37.5 (or 38) washes (456 excess mp if 38, 444 if 37). You should finish with 9.4k hp and 186 excess mp at the cost of 125 (single wash) + 38 (mp to hp from stale wash) + 116 (reset int) for 864900 NX.


    edit: I see what you're doing with unwashed HP but it's inefficient to stale wash until you're done using the fresh ones. In your case, you need to add 116 washes that were unaccounted for.
     
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    That one probably wasn't a good example. I was just messing around with the numbers to make sure everything was working. By no means is this the most efficient way. Again, this is for people who are scrambling for HP, because they either started washing really late or they want more HP than they initially intended. Fresh AP will probably be a limited resource for those, so using stale HP washing would be the best option.

    This was something I threw together for personal use and thought would be helpful for others. There is a certain point where regular washing combined with mp washing would be more efficient than stale washing combined with mp washing. If you're willing to walk me through it, i'd love to incorporate that to the sheet.

    Edit: Would you say, "If you have extra NX and your MP wash per level was less than 5, you can use the extra fresh AP to regular wash?"

    Edit#2: Changed the If statement in there.
    If mp washes per level > 5
    Try increasing your base int or wear more int at level up
    else
    You'll have extra fresh AP. I'll leave it up to your discretion on how you want to allocate the extra AP (save for future mp washes or use it for regular washing)
     
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    I'm just looking at your example since it's unaltered X)

    But from my observations your conversion is stagnant at 140 and doesn't take into account passive MP gained from leveling up
    upload_2020-7-24_21-27-23.png
    You need to add the AP resets taken to wash that HP in above pic down there and might want to rename to something like "stale ap into hp"
    upload_2020-7-24_21-32-48.png

    As for MP washing tab i'd just delete it and use a general formula but.. see how this is a derivative
    upload_2020-7-24_21-40-5.png
    and this is not
    upload_2020-7-24_21-47-56.png

    and replace int needed per level to MP per level
    upload_2020-7-24_21-47-11.png
     
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    before i reply. how do you upload pictures like that? 0.o do you copy and paste instead of uploading?
     
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    Good catch on including AP resets to wash out the unwashed HP. As for the MP portion, I was formatting and may have forgotten to multiply (MP washes needed per level x cost of ap resets) by remaining level. Just corrected.
     
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    You're using 745.5/25 for MP per level but why multiply by 12? imo you'd have an easier time to just use extra MP as a currency since it'll save you a few extra steps/complications
    upload_2020-7-24_21-59-12.png
     
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    Another oversight, changed to 10, because every 10 int = 1 mp gain. Can you confirm whether the level up gains are correct? I'm basing it off this off this:



    upload_2020-7-24_20-21-48.png
     
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