Quest Ring? :0

Thanks for that bit of info. I was under the impression that they either were not or there were special rings in the CS that gave a +1 to +5 all-stats that they had back in GMS and thought to myself, "Surely, those couldn't be cosmetic." What happens if you equip multiple cosmetic rings into more than one slot? Is that possible? ...I'm digressing.

But what if players WANTED to have their cosmetic wedding rings on while grinding together? Too many rings that have superior stats would prevent this from being a reasonable decision. On top of that, whether the event rings are useful or not evades the point that if we have rings from events - no matter their level of usefulness - if they aren't as good as the rings you've worked for you'll never take part in the events (unless there are other incentives with the event). Why risk that? It almost forces the event items to be a little OP in order to compete with the other rings. The more choices with a limited number you can choose makes certain items obsolete. This is probably my biggest pet peeve with games like MapleStory and WoW - when items become easily obsolete no matter how hard you may have had to work for them simply because the designers wanted to release something new. I also understand that having more slots to equip stuff allow for power creep, so there's that, too. Nevertheless, I believe introducing more items that results in more obsolescence isn't a good way to go.

 

I think the idea to upgrade monster book ring is nice. Like a hornatail pendant, every time complete 100 quests, players got an upgrade scroll +hp and accuracy/avoid.

 

If someone wants to have a cosmetic ring on while grinding, it's their active decision to do so, they could replace Ellin Ring in the meanwhile only losing a few stats. If you don't want to lose any valuable stats while grinding then you keep it off, there's no purpose in pigeonholing rings just to keep people using the wedding ring out of constrain.

As for event rings, they are always gained by playing through the event period. For zombie rings it was making stew/pet mats, passion ring is gathering roses that drop. Could someone ignore these if they had better? Sure. But that doesn't mean they won't be participating in the events for other purposes (namely chairs, cosmetics, and WS/Chaos). Even for the passion ring assuming it could be replaced, a lower level character would surely gather/buy the roses to use it. It's ok for event items to have their own level niche and not be the end all for everyone. You say that it forces the event equips to be OP to compete, I don't believe event rings should be competing with actual rings at all. An event ring should never be as good as a Tier 10 MB ring. Likewise if a Tier 10 (or whatever the max would be) quest ring existed, a event ring shouldn't be stronger than that either.

 

If you really want people to leave this server you put this in.

 

im down if it gives 10-20att SeemsGood

 

If you're going to say something so drastic, at least try to explain your reasoning.

 

Of course, if we don't make it a ring this doesn't even become an issue. This is why I've been advocating the Medal System that GMS had. If that can't happen, then why not have it be a Face Accessory that doesn't directly compete with any other end-game Face Accessory other than equips you'd get out of Gachapon? Why should we force players to decide which rings they would want to wear unless there is a good reason for it? To demand the Quest Reward to be in the form of a ring and then casually dismissing any other inferior ring that players wouldn't have minded wearing on the pretense that players would "lose any valuable stats while grinding" is more indicative of placing greater desire on wanting to have a more powerful character than it does a desire to ensure the game is balanced, flexible, and fun to play (aka not too easy). This brings me back to my main argument that no one has ever refuted: Just as the Zakum Helmet made all level 50+ helmets essentially obsolete, the last thing you want to do is create an equip that creates more obsolescence.

 

While it seems like having another ring isn't a problem (monsterbook, ellin, halloween, supposed quest ring, cash rings can be worn over stat rings, wedding rings don't really give meaningful stats), why is it so bad to have no more than 4 rings? All other equips have upgrades and I don't see any reason why we should have set amount of rings. I can't really complain about getting a new ring that has better stats than my Ellin ring.

 

If the ring to replace your Ellin Ring is Level 100+, I could see that. But I guarantee your first ring to go is your Wedding Ring, not the Ellin Ring. And if that's the case, then either make the Wedding Ring cosmetic or remove it from the game entirely. As you said, it gives no meaningful stats - so why is anyone wearing it even now? If the Wedding Ring became cosmetic, (that it could be worn over another ring like any cosmetic ring in the CS), then I'd be fine with introducing another ring because we'd have room for it.

 

yes, I agree wedding ring is the first to go.

Still, why do we need to have room for it? all other equips have some kind of upgrade path. I don't see any reason why we shouldn't have 5 or 6 or 8 available rings. I still don't understand why keeping maximum of 4 rings is an issue.

EDIT: Should -> shouldn't

 

Why have it at all?

 

For real guys. Just forget the freaking medals. This requires a later version of maplestory. A completely different client, and a completely different server. All the work the MapleLegends staff have put in to fix bugs and add content on this server go down the drain, and all the know-how for hex editing their client is lost too. They pretty much have to start from scratch to add in belts and medals.

Adding it on a ring would work. Even adding it on an earring, a cape, or a pet equip could work. Or we could just buff HP/MP scrolls. Or we could do nothing!

Edit: Better yet, I believe a cosmetic ring could still have stats. Of course people will likely want some of their own cosmetics, but I think this means we could potentially 8 rings that give stats.

But medals aren't going to happen. Sorry.

 

I just don't see the argument. The argument is that 4 slots = 4 maximum rings in the server. Why?

Pendant has 1 slot, but we have 3 pendants to use. Does this mean we need to add 2 pendant slots to accommodate all of them? All other equip types except rings have some kind of upgrade path like [silver dep -> MoM -> horntail pendant] or [random hat -> zhelm -> targa/scar hat]. Why shouldn't rings be subjected to this? If there are 8 rings, it's not game breaking. Players just need to pick the better stat, that's all. So I don't see any reason not to add a quest ring if the reason is because we already have 4 rings.

 

This as well. We have four slots for rings, so if some are superior/inferior to others, well, that's part of the game for just about every other piece of equipment!

 

My question hasn't been answered. Why do we have a Wedding Ring in this game at all? If we're going to have a Quest Specialist Ring, then delete all Wedding Rings from the game - no one is going to use them, they're automatically obsolete, they're utterly worthless.

My argument, for the 5th time, is that the Wedding Ring is a cosmetic ring and shouldn't be relegated to the garbage because everyone wants an extra ring for something. If the Wedding Ring can be turned into a cosmetic so it can be worn over another ring like a CS ring, then have a ring orgy for all I care. Otherwise, tell me why we even have a Wedding Ring in the game in the first place!

 

For the one day when we get ring luk/dex/str/int scrolls that secretly make wedding rings best in slot.

 

When I first started playing MapleLegends in 2017 I found there was a huge focus on doing quests, and I still get that vibe now, it'd be nice to have that solidified in-game rather than only as a cultural thing with an item that rewards those for doing quests exactly like the monster card ring. There's nothing wrong with it only being a cultural thing, but it seems to me that questing is quite core to Legend so what I am saying is that it would make sense and be quite tasteful to have such an item made and functional.

That way this focus on doing quests is more official as it were. Something small like the +1 for every say.. 50 or 100 quests done (EXCLUDING MAPLE ISLAND AND QUESTS WITH SPECIFIC LEVEL RANGES ONLY) (unsure what number would be appropriate here) would be fantastic and it also means the code for the monster ring can be recycled for a faster implementation.

 

Eh, I was more focused on other arguments that I saw earlier (4 ring argument), but let's address wedding ring situation.

I think you are a bit exaggerating things here. Nobody needs to delete wedding rings (are we going to delete all junk items? Thermometer, palette, etc.). Also, wedding rings do not need to have a slot either. Like you said, it's a cosmetic. People can take it off during boss. Why do you even need wedding effect during boss anyway? After boss, people can put it back on.

I understand it's a special ring, but also, it's just another item. It's not the end of the world if you take wedding ring off. If you really want to keep it on, just sacrifice your stats. Sometimes in gaming world, you need to pick one between meta and fun.

Yes, wedding ring being turned to nx-like item would be great, but even if it doesn't, why should it deter a new ring from emerging? Do note, there are already 4 rings that are more powerful than wedding rings: ellin, monsterbook, valentine, halloween (I did not mention halloween in my earlier post because I forgot about it). So when you say a new ring shouldn't be added due to wedding ring, it's a bit too late. To use your words, they're already automatically obsolete, they're utterly worthless.

I believe wedding ring issue fits on a new suggestion thread to somehow convert it to nx-like item, if that's even possible. As far as I can see, it has nothing to do with quest ring discussion.