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Shadower with the challenge system?

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by artrex, Sep 8, 2024.

  1. artrex
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    artrex Mushmom

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    Hello,are there any shadowers with the new challenges system here?thinking about opening one without washing and have many different opinions so im confused a little bit and not sure what should i do if my goal is to enjoy the game until the end game and have fun on endgame bosses

    ty :)
     
  2. Subterlabor
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    Subterlabor Zakum

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    You can do all bosses just fine with minimal impact to QoL. Dont listen to the elitists
     
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    kiwiz Skelosaurus

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    Based on your goal, HP washing would be more recommended and enjoyable. Don’t listen to someone who is creating a 30k HP BM.
     
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    so,a shad w/o wash wouldnt be reccomended even if i have mg and equips that give 2-3khp ?
     
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    The main reasoning is that since you intend to play all the way to the end, you will eventually have a surplus of vote cash, and you may end up regretting not washing.

    If you're worried about grinding, a Bandit is fully capable of grinding on its own without relying on their attack range, as their skill, Meso Explosion, doesn't depend on its stats but on meso to deal damage. You might as well take advantage of this.

    You don't have to wash up to 30k HP—anywhere between 15k-20k is pretty good and very manageable even for a new account. For 15k HP at level 160, including equips, you'll need to invest around 200 base INT starting at level 40, after having some LUK for damage to grind until level 70. From there, you can start using Meso Explosion until level 120+ without issues, while you wait for vote cash to MP wash whenever you have enough.
     
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    I'm doing challenges and I already washed to about 9k base HP (challenges will give me +1k), I've basically done every boss in the server except Auf (because she scares me). Because of meso guard you'll be able to do pink bean but it will be pretty close and you'll need the T10 monster book ring, pet equips, ephenia ring but you'll be able to do it without hb as long as you watch your hp.

    Shads might be one of the few classes that will be able to do PB without hyper body on the challenges system.

    I've had shad friends do horntail on 5k HP, although it's not as comfy as if you're washed it's definitely doable.
     
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  7. Subterlabor
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    Subterlabor Zakum

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    Unwashed shad with no HB whiting the bean

    You can do all bossing just fine. Don't listen to a shad who doesn't do any bossing and solely farms for his own personal goals

    [​IMG]
     
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    Considering his gears he would easily qualify for 18-24 man (or even lower depending on what can be muled) instead of a 30 man, but the low hp would soon become a liability.

    If you want to perform in the "sweatier" runs just wash as much as you can. If you don't then challenges are fine.
     
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  9. Raso
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    Raso Mr. Anchor Retired Staff

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    Unless you want do have a VERY luxurious life or be VERY sweat, the challenges are enough for shads to do all content. Im somewhat in the same boat as MirrorsMirrors . My shad had roughly 8,8k clean at 194 and I have done Auf without HB, and PBd with HB on it at earlier levels (still 18x tho).

    If youre fine with doing 30-man PB`s (with HB) you would 100% be fine with just the challenges. SubterlaborSubterlabor 's pic shows even unwashed shads can be perfectly fine in the highest content. Yes, he might have amazing gear, but that doesnt help him taking less damage (unless he scrolled for wdef...).

    If you DO want to almost never worry about HP, or NEVER be reliant on HB AND have no issues with the long time needed to vote, leech and not being able to fully use your character, then do wash the hard way. If you choose this road, you should commit to it and aim high.

    (Personally I find too high washed shads incredibly boring, as my current shad (12k incl. equips, before MG/HB) is already a snoozefest HP-wise in almost all content)
     
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    Make HP challenges shad

    Should you become sweaty enough to want to remake a 30k shad, you'll find that the first shad is still highly valuable to have
     
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