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Monster Book drops at 5 cards

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kimmy, Jul 13, 2018.

Should cards stay visible after you've collected 5 of the type?

Poll closed Jul 20, 2018.
  1. Yes - I want alert friends when an important card dropped I don't need anymore

    121 vote(s)
    73.8%
  2. No - They are cluttering the drops

    43 vote(s)
    26.2%
  1. Rapskal
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    Ah sorry I didn't realise how old the monsterbook thing is. It must've come out soon after I stopped playing so it probably wouldn't affect most people here. My bad SlimeSweat2
     
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  2. Poofcakes
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    Monster Book was released in GMS in version 0.67 (8 Apr 2009) (source).
     
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  3. DL4u
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    This is a bad idea in my opinion cause if I want to give the card to a friend or someone specific a random guy just can show up and loot it and be gone without taking a screenshot of him
    When I can loot it you can still have a chance to take it before a stealer
    Anyway in my opinion all thought you said you don’t take options for both I think you should make it as fame system when you write @fame and choose between visible or not
    I think you should keep it that way anyway
     
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    Why would you have to take a screenshot of him?
     
  5. Chris
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    Agree with you on this.

    When you're actively collecting cards it somewhat of a fun new thing to do from the norms of a v62 server but nothing is more annoying to me when I'm grinding in one map for a long period of time seeing all the monster book cards for that particular mob. Something about them just isn't nostalgic to me whatsoever and has partly become a bitter sweet turn off to me. It's not like I don't agree with not being able to see them for bosses or if you're helping out friends with cards you would want to be able to see them, I understand that, its just nothing is absolutely more annoying to me when I see a card I don't desire, and then see it a shit load more times.

    And I think that msg after you've collected 5 cards when picking up the same card speaks for itself in how annoying it is.
     
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    Since demand to get rid of the 'you got 5 cards' message is overwhelming I have decided to do this already for next restart:
    https://kimberly.s-ul.eu/iAIaek2K
     
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  7. Heartiess
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    So the specific sight of a card is annoying to you? Or the message? Because if the message is gone, it turns into any other loot. I cant even comprehend how its annoying if you can just loot your items and it just disappears after being looted.
    Your drops will be cluttered if you dont pick up items regardless of if monstercards drop or not
     
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    prob the best solution tbh lol.
     
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    If I remember right after talking to Nise while hunting mushmom boss cards two of the cards got stolen cus it was ‘just on the ground’ two days later I see a new rule that if someone loot other stuff when he own the map owner he can get banned
    That is the reason if u won’t able to take something so it’s a bad idea in my opinion, you hunt so it’s your own loot and saddenly some people don’t get it if they hear “no”
     
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    I would prefer it to be like GMS and have the card be invisible after 5. Would rather have someone that needs the card get it than my pet accidentally looting it lol. Obviously it wouldn't make a difference when you're training on a map alone, but less clutter is always nice imo MapleF17


    I also like this idea as well. Kind of a "best of both worlds" thing coolmush
     
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    I rarely loot anything, the cards specifically annoy me tho.
     
  12. Lionheart
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    I remember when you made card drops completely untradable and everyone went nuts. The main legit argument was that players partying and farming cards could no longer help each other if they happened to get extra cards. This suggestion once again ruins that, making it much more difficult if not impossible to help each other.

    I would suggest just leaving it as is. It's really not that big of a deal to see a message in the chat box.
     
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    Isn't this more or less the dame issue as corneans marrow? Why not treat it the same way
     
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    Don't change anything, leave it as it is. Omg
     
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    I agree with you about everything except that original monster book cards were actually very rare, more rare than they are on this server, especially for bosses and uncommon mobs like boogies, faeries, etc (no complaints from me though) MapleF11

    In GMS the original cards weren't invisible after 5. Others could loot them like any other drop, and after 5 you could still loot them and get that message in the chat box. You would also get a buff for every card collected (some mobs would give trash buffs like + 3 speed, others would give +15% drop rate, etc. that would last for like 15 minutes.)
     
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    The purpose of Monster Cards in MapleLegends is to allow players to get Monster Card Tier Rings. If they were exceptionally rare, it would make HP washing more appealing. I understand you're not complaining, I'm just stating this for clarification. The rings would negate the necessity for temporary boosts upon acquiring the 5th card. As I've argued in many other threads, while this is a nostalgia server - not everything from the original GMS was a good thing. We don't want to have nostalgia about horribleness. Kimberly makes the necessary changes so that we enjoy every aspect of the game; not be dragged through parts of the misery of old times. :)
     
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    Yes I agree, the GMS drop rates were too poor to be enjoyable (as evidenced by the fact that very few people tried to collect them all). At least personally, the purpose of the monster cards isn't just a means to an end (having more HP), but as a big part of the gameplay itself (similar to questing or other completionist goals).
    In GMS you would actually receive the buffs for every card, not just your 5th+ ones (I've seen people state that multiple times on the forums so I feel I need to clarify it). But yes I agree the trouble of getting these buffs to work in ML isn't worth it, especially since we get a ring that far exceeds those buffs.

    I really like the way that Legends has handled the monster book and it's the reason I started playing on this server.
     
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    Would it still be nostalgic if they added the buffs the monster cards give? I don’t know when it was added though. For example if you pick up a mini-boss card you get a buff that temporarily increases the drop rate of the area around the boss. I think its the best compromise for pro vs. con full cardset.
     

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