NON-MEME potential shadower buffs

So maybe a week and a half ago I posted a thread named 'potential shadower buffs' for the main reason of satirical comedy illustrating how many people feel about the current state of shadowers.


Now the orginal 'toxic' post that I was meme-ing on is still getting replies somehow even though it is just blatantly dumb. So I felt I needed to make a follow up, but a real follow up, not just a meme; because apparently you people cant understand when to let a dumb post die.


My goals with the post:

-suggest some actually buffs shadowers can recieve without being game breaking

-suggest things so simple, you feel dumb for not suggesting it before

-make it funny?

First and foremost we have to look at the current state of shadowers. Yes some may call us Chadowers, but they are labeled as a 'support' class while quite honestly having very little support utility. Yes smoke screen is a good skill, but 1 skill alone wont make a job a 'support'.


I made this a key theme in my original meme post (to make dumb memes) but shadowers have very very good versatility, so why don't we expand on this if they are going to be a supporting class.


But first:


Reason why I think shadowers should be a support class: Honestly no hard facts, I've just read that nate code is wonky AF, so the less it changes the better, cause it's easier for the devs. (plz change nate code i want dank dmg).


I'm going to go in order of what I feel is easiest to implement to not so easy (mind you the only coding I can do is taking 10 hours to create 'hello world' so if you don't agree with my ordering maybe go outside and see the sunlight for the first time in 17 years, then come back to talk trash).


1) make Savage blow a primary 'pinning' attack

I'm not a high level shad by any means, but that means if I want to pap/rav (very early game bosses) I would usually need to find a higher level that's willing to pin. And TBH even with event points happening, that just doesn't fucking happen. I propose that shadowers get an improvement in versatility by alloweing SB to pin better. How you make ask? Well guess what I got your answer: SB is 6 attacks at 80% dmg = 480% damage per cast. Make each attack of SB give 480% knock back(ex: 6 attacks at 480% pin, damage will not change).THIS WILL NOT IMPROVE DPM AT ALL. all this will do is allow lower level parties to actually pap/rav. IF YOU CAN ALREADY KNOCK BACK WITH BOOMER STEP THIS CLEARLY ISN'T AIMED AT YOU. Max BS will already out dmg, thus knock back mobs more often at max level, this suggestion is not aimed at improving life for maxed players. This will just give 12x shadowers a little more reason to be brought on early level boss runs.


2) Make pickpocket mesos be able to be picked up by other people. I said this list was in somewhat of an order of easiest to implement too hardest. Well, you guys just unimplemented this, just revert it at the very least for pickpocket.


Now is where I turn from things I have some experience of to stuff I’ve only been informed by the cesspool that is the forums.


3) Taunt

This may be hard to implement but I doubt it cause you already have skills that affect bosses/mobs diffently. My suggestion is when you use taunt on a boss it forces it to agro you. This would in theory reduces shadower sed mules, because it makes a normal shadower being a sed mule better. If a shad/sec mule happened to die at HT whether it be mis-managing multi client with a true sed mule or an actual ashower, this will allow them to regain that agro from HT arm. And since HT is pretty much the only place a shadower will ever see 4 mob cleave i feel like them slightly excelling past 'mule status' is ok
**I don’t think this should come with a 40% armor increase of the boss, 5/10% maybe, but honestly I think 0% armor increase would be fine. It could be that taunt 30 on a boss only redirects agro for 120 seconds or something like that. In that case I feel that the dpm lost from needing to taunt will counterbalance not having armor increase (or minimal armor increase)

**also if you are speed running HT and use that as an argument as to why this is unbalanced, again, go outside and see sunlight for the first time in 17 years.


4) Smoke screen buff

This one is sorta straight forward, just make smoke screen give everyone in your party say a 2.5-5% increased crit chance. Honestly maybe lower depending on how BM/NL are affected from this (I’ve never played those jobs, so idk). Maybe to balance it, its only the shadower that gets the bonus, maybe the whole party? I’m slightly leaning towards just the shadower getting the crit bonus sorta just for lore and class identity sake. So the shadower has to chose between increasing his/her own dpm instead of the entire parties. This would also make shadowers give more thought into where to actually place smoke. Instead of just blasting it down unless someone needed res.


5) Ninja Ambush rework

This one may feel too ‘private server-ey’ for ML and if that’s the case, I do understand. The skill is honestly just to trash to not try to think of a rework for it though. Basically my suggestion is allow ninja ambush to work on bosses (albeit it will have a cooldown, maybe about 5m cd on bosses), and it has a chance with each attack to apply venom or disorder onto the mob (for disorder it should probably apply 1/4-1/2 the players actual disorder level for balance reasons, maybe even less idk.) Granted this suggestion would also allow ‘disorder’ to be applied to bosses, but only through ninja ambush. I see this skill buff as somewhat an extension of band of thieves (maybe requiring a BoT skill lvl to put points in), where the thieves that are summoned are able to provide more than just dps.


These suggestions are only focused on shadowers, the taunt/ninja ambush suggestions where not considered with night lords in mind, only shadowers. Maybe the dev’s could somehow split the skill while keeping skill books the same (like with shadow shifter), or just use these ideas for inspiration for other changes.

In retrospect rereading what I wrote I didn't really make it that funny, but hopefully the allure of humor got you to read it, so I'm not going to go back and edit it. Also mind you, I'm not a high level shad, so if anything I assume in this thread is wrong, blame yourself for posting dumb shit on the forums about high level shadowers.