Neo Tokyo Bosses' droprates

HT is worth like about 160m per kill. 100 HT runs would be worth like 16b.

 

Wait a sec. Can i solo Neo Tokyo?

 

Verg is pretty easily soloed by anyone with decent damage and enough hp.
Dunas is easily soloed by ranged classes as long as you pay attention to DR.
Nib is a bit annoying to solo without using the bottom right corner cheese spot(aGgRo aBuSe). If you have a mule to take the aggro so nib doesnt permanently freeze so that it does not count as aggro abuse, then it is easily soloed as well.
Nameless is a bit challenging to solo, but it is extremely easy to duo.

 

Can i enter neo tokyo without a party?

 

Yep, you just gotta do the prequests

 

You cannot enter NT bosses without a party, but you can with a party that has just one character (yourself) in it.

 

NT drop rates is definitely in need of a change. What that should be? Not sure, but the reason of the last nerf to NT was that bosses were shitting weapons out the ass and made crafting not even worth it. Post nerf it seems crafting is the only way to get these items at the cost of 70m+ in nano plan, sealed stone and dragon weapon. Popular perfect NT weapons currently avg about 200-300m with the exception of Claw being the most expensive. Crafting is not worth your money when you can just sell the material for guaranteed profit. I agree that we should buff the regular drops such as scrolls, non NT equip, as well as the crafting materials slightly. I pretty much run NT for exp now sadly. Drops are just a nice surprise, but how many runs that might take until I get something worth selling is unknown.

 

Very cool that you guys gathered so much data! 1.955m per run is misleading, the actual profit per run was 7.12m. What you earn as a player depends on how many people you bring to the boss runs. Anyways, from this data, I think it's clear NT could use a buff to the crafting material rates / scroll rate.

Buffing the average profit to ~10-15m / run seems fair to me.

 

Yes, but I don't think its good from an analysis point of view to include that figure because the number of attackers you bring per run vary. For example, I could include 6 man nameless run where we get good drops, it would show as very low mesos per person.

Whereas if i include a nameless solo where I get good drops, it would be very high mesos per person. It's best to just include average value per kill, as that number is less biased and more telling of how much profit you should expect from killing a boss.

 

Or perhaps you should just raise the prices of what you're selling :thinking:

 

I think the main concern here are the regular drops and crafting materials, not how much we sell NT weapons for. Can't convince the market to raise prices all of a sudden without something influencing it.

 

About that, the crafting materials are actually very difficult to sell already, owing to the facts that grave crafts are extremely riskly (82% chance to get something worse than a dragon weapon, unless you're crafting 1h sword/BW), and they require vast amount of coins which are difficult to amass for people who don't do NT bosses or NTPQ regularly (due to the general terribleness of NT maps - and before anyone tries to say "but they were buffed", I already gave my verdict on them here: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/nt-training.28140/), and people selling crafting services are few and far in between. They're generally only a few points above dragon weapons too, so basically they're nothing more than flexes. And once PB arrives and start dropping reverse weapons, even assuming base library stats with no item level up (or compensation for lack of level up) whatsoever, the graves won't even be flexing material any more, and only the 1hs will see any use at all. If anything, we'd want to price them cheap to sell them faster, not try to hold out on the already-basically-non-existent-and-will-exist-even-less-in-the-future market to try to make more money.

 

i think reason why nt weps/materials so cheap is because it provides so little benefits to scroll them... when it at most adds a measely 1 ~2wa and perfect wa costs a shit ton more. Not including the risk of 30%thing the weapon and it's rarity

I would like to propose buffing nt eqs wa slightly more therefore it would entice more people to pay more for the weapons/materials and not just use dragon eqs

of course that means increasing wa of already scrolled ones too

 

I’ve had this particular person harass me for refusing to reduce the price on my omega plants. And they’ve been sitting in my inventory for almost a month now. I still refuse to reduce my prices but increasing them will just make them more unsellable.