What it means for HP Washing to be optional On MapleLegends

Is that mathematically feasible?

 

yes, but not economical X)

 

Thoughts on making Wheel give holder an HP boost?
It would come at a cost, it is expensed if used to revive, and it's not permanent (not applicable for other bosses or normal use). For those who are attempting PB at the absolute lowest HP required (or even below it), if Wheel could help bring them past that lower limit, I think it could be a viable option. The caveat is that these players must play more skillfully to ensure they do not die as they cannot use Wheel to revive lest they fall under the minimum HP threshold to survive. They would have to depend entirely on their expedition's res (and would be a liability in that regard), but they'd also have fewer total lives than their washed peers.
I'm not sure how big of an impact this would make on the clear rate for PB. It'd definitely make it slightly easier for the current successful squads, but it'd also lower minimum HP the minimum threshold to wash for future squads.

 

if they die, they lose that max hp (from the wheel) which forces them out of the PB run

 

30k/30k as in 30k for both hp and mp right?
There is limit in how much fresh ap you have for mp washing.
Can you show me the calculations?

 

As a thief if you mp wash starting at lvl 10 and wash every fresh ap into int up until lvl 200 you'd get about 44650 extra mp which will "almost" get you to 30/30 clean.

35 int at lvl 10 plus 5x190 int divided by 2 is your average int each lvl up which is 492,5 which gives you 47 mp per wash.

47 x 190 x 5 mp washes is 44650 mp

Lets say you wash for 25k hp which costs 25000/16x12=18750mp

which leaves you with an additional 25k hp and 44650-18750=25900 extra mp.

Add the base hp and mp and anything extra from lvl ups and int from equips and yea it's possible.

 

edit: 3277 or so ap resets after lv50 which is like 600+k ap already and calculation for thief/archers

 

HP Face accessories are not even technically BiS like MoN or BFC, so I believe that's why it's not listed (ditto to earrings and helmet). Regardless, if one is willing to sacrifice some stats for HP on helmet, earrings, face and eye (gloves are too big of a sacrifice and top/bottom scrolls are annoying to find; not to mention for some classes top/bottom would nuke your def), you'd be able to realistically get about 120-150ish on helm, 100 on earrings, 120 on face and 300 on eye, which adds up to about 650-700 total HP, which is not enough to survive anything new (Vergamot/Ariel needs about 8.3k at minimum for ranged, while melee needs 15k to tank PB touch damage). Event gears could help but event gears are transient and dependent on the whims of the staff in how much HP they give and how long they last, which makes them very hard to include in a life-long plan for being able to even do bosses (now you can fight them, now you can't)

 

"From the above, we can clearly see that mages, warriors and brawlers do not require any washing to survive any boss. Thief(nightlords)/Archer/Gunslingers are really the only 4 classes that need to worry about hp washing for survival in boss runs. So, the rest of this guide is going to focus on those classes and what they can do with ZERO washing."

Hi! I'm relatively new. Am I missing out something? Why do mages/warriors/brawlers not require any washing when their HP are relatively low?

 

With HB, being level 200 and having those HP gears (BFC, MoN, Pets), you have above 15k HP.

Iirc, 15k HP is required to tank PB. Correct me if im wrong tho

 

That's technically not true for brawlers (and shads). The guide references 12.3k hp for an unwashed level 200 bucc with BiS HP gears, and 6.8k for a thief. A bucc would need 15k hp and a shad would need 7.5k hp before HB to tank PB, so some minor washing would be necessary for those aspiring to fight PB.

 

even den, the guide stats bucc has 10k clean HP at lvl 200.
using HB will grant them 16k HP

bandit has 4.8k clean HP at lvl 200
using HB will grant them 7.68k thats before the "mandatory monster ring" that pretty much most dits goes for

 

The 15k HP figure you referenced earlier is pre-HB; PB touch damage is roughly 24k.

 

i see, i assumed it was 15k HP touch, my bad. i'll take back my words on it