Fixed expiring duration on Mastery Books

What about adding in the scroll of secrets to the drop table, and having it scale with the difficulty of the boss? E.g. Zak drops 0-2, HT drops 1-3, etc

 

I think they attempted to address this with the boss's NPC drop to be a few hundred K.
It is a tiny tiny tiny tiny change, but I think it is a step in the right direction, but now they are open up to increasing the drops of those ETCs without affecting the equips.

 

1) Reduce maximum skill book drop count to 1 per boss, should reduce supply somehow.

EDIT:
2) Reduce number of HT runs per day from 2 to 1. Lesser runs = lesser drops, also helps with the insufficient channels at peak hours issue. (may cause displeasure among classes that cannot grind efficiently as they lose EXP gain from bossing)

3) Make Dragon Elixir not stack-able, increase repeatable quest cooldown timer. This way we'll have to do the quest every single day in order to run HT daily, which could discourage people from running every day. Again, lesser runs = lesser drops. (hate this idea personally)

 

I would like to add about the dominated era of halc and demure. As part of the demure group that took it down, the prices were they high for mainly 2 reasons. 1. Only 3 groups could do it halcyon, demure and project. 2. The runs lasted more than 6 hours in the beginning.

For suggestions in making book prices better.

1. Lowering drop rate works, simplest way but won’t fix market until the old books are cleared.
2. Lower the chance of success on 30 books , evil but that could work.
3. I wouldn’t mind a flat amount of mesos for books, similar to how NT has a treatment for the etc drop. Setting a standard for books to never be able to deviate from, only thing I consider would be that books deemed worthless may be npced Straight away leaving market dry.

 

10 minute pap
10 minute ravana
20 minute zak
20 minute scarga
30 minute CWK
30 minute NT
1 hour HT

make bossing great again

 

Keep the timer on all bosses the same, except double their HP.

 

While we are at it. Just make them alternate forever between weapon cancel and magic cancel

 

Making bosses harder to kill or limiting runs is just a band-aid fix to the larger problem that the demand for skillbooks will decline over time as the server ages. The thing about skillbooks is that their demand is entirely dependent on utility. That utility goes to 0 with no new players and with passed books. A lower cost for a skillbook does not necessitate an increase of demand. Even if you lowered the supply to 0, skillbooks would not go up in price unless demand exists.

With the above assumption in mind, the problem in rewarding boss clears with skillbooks is that there will inevitably be less and less incentive to run. Tweaking drop rates lower and lower to reduce the supply doesn't even do a proper job of reducing the supply. In a system where nobody consumes skillbooks with a non-zero supply production, your supply will still increase. However, this solution doesn't just not work. It also has a side-effect of killing all logical rationale for running that content. Why risk running a boss for 2-3 hours with no returns if you can guarantee your meso with alternative methods? Increasing that risk just makes it much worse.

Here's the dilemma - if meso is your goal, bossing is bad because you can guarantee your returns by farming certain maps. If EXP is your goal, bossing is bad because you can guarantee your returns by farming certain meso-rewarding maps while simultaneously buying leech from Shaolin. Bossing used to be good because you could accomplish both goals simultaneously with a semi-decent expected return for meso. Constantly lowering the drop rate to 'fix' the skillbook prices would ultimately reduce the risk-reward rationale for bossing altogether.

I think a possible option for bringing back demand for books is to allow them to be traded in for attack pots. Attack pots are consumables that have inherent utility and trade value. This wouldn't inject the economy with raw meso as attack pots serve as an indirect value sink (consumable), with marketable properties (standard coin), and has nondepreciating utility. Pink Bean has skyrocketed demand for apples lately, and the supply will eventually run dry (not before skyrocketing in cost even more). If the ultimate goal is to equalize meso-value from the rich to the poor, this could be one viable way of doing just that.

 

The decline of HT books prices over the last couple of years is almost entirely a supply side problem. Contrary to popular belief there always has been a consistently large demand for HT books. If you put a MW or GEN 5-10m under the lowest FM price, it would pretty much always sell immediately(most of the time within half an hour). The major difference between now and 2017-2018 is the increase of HT clears. If you merely look at the number of book listings in the FM, you could probably estimate that the rate of HT clears has changed by a factor of 5-10 since mid 2018. Meanwhile the demand for HT books probably roughly scales with the number of active 4th job players, so at best its probably increase by a factor of ~3.

There isn't an elegant way of increasing the demand, some sort of cUsToM change will be needed. Meanwhile to fix things on the supply side, all you have to do is change 1 number in the codeand 70% of the HT squads will vanish into thin air.

-uNfaIr tO nEw pLaYeRs
-Formerly endgame content becoming dead
-cUstOm cHaNgEs

You have to pick one

 

Change MW to a self buff only (not party buff) and watch the demand soar

 

NPCs always have a demand. You just might not agree with their prices.

 

Perfect for maintaining Corsair class identity. I vote yes

 

this further validates the server's HP wash optional concept, great idea 10/10

 

Huh?

 

I think there needs to be a separation between the still worthy (a lot) books like MW20 and GEN30, to the rest of the books.
The demand for MW20 and GEN30 has always been there, the price is lower but it is still healthy amount.
I don't think it is you want to turn new player off by telling them, "you can never afford your 4th job skill book unless you farm for 6 month - 1 year"

We should be looking at how to make those worthless books that got left on the ground, to be a certain value maybe.
Maybe each XX20 and XX30 book can be turned in for a common gach or something.

And any lower drop rate to the books will just turn the game into even more Mage/Leech Story.
Unless somehow the increase in value for the books outweighs the decrease in drops leading to an overall increase in value over time, and here you will be talking about demand elastically already (oh gawd econs)

 

1 hour PB timer too?

Can we change all current skillbooks to Ancient. We can start from a clean slate.