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Midway's Meso Journal, the Villager funded Corsair

Discussion in 'MapleLegends Journeys' started by Tarnished, Nov 2, 2023.

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    Midway's Journey

    "It takes a village to raise a Child" - Sun Tzu


    I've spent the past 2 years mostly beating on mobs with sticks and stones to eke out a humble living. Now that my village of miscellaneous scuffed characters is reaching a local peak in productivity, the time has finally come for me to join the maple elites as a sophisticated person of range with a sweet yacht. Introducing my magnum opus - Midway: The 570 INT deadweight gearless Corsair. In the oncoming months, I will document Midway's transformation from worthless and maidenless to professional boss whiter, and the convoluted steps I take along the way.

    Years of repeated head trauma have hindered my ability to read, so playing high INT Mages is not a viable career for me. I will melee my way to ~12k p.coins via bossing and walking around hitting stuff, among other low brow behaviors. This journey will be hard and slow, so I'm creating this journal to not lose sight of my ninja way.

    Total Wealth:

    "Don't go buying a boat" - Barack Obama

    I've accumulated approx. 6k coins worth of stuff over 2 years. My records are very approximate, but I'd estimate this was my revenue breakdown
    • 20% from CWK
    • 25% from 7F
    • 10% from NT content (almost entirely Core + Auf)
    • 10% from Events
    • 5% from amazing trade deals
    • 30% misc. (PB, leeching, services, other bosses, farming)

    In terms of liquidity, we have none

    Asset Allocation:
    (items ordered approx by value, descending)

    This is a baseline on how much funding my yokels have for the activities they do. I move around the tradeable stuff sometimes (rarely). I also have many other characters but they're more or less liabilities

    Confessor 196 Hero :
    upload_2023-11-1_20-1-13.png

    My main attacker, a real work horse. As my firstborn son he brings me many joys and many disappointments. He still has much to learn.
    • 132 TL Nibelheim
    • 10 STR Specs
    • 36/20 Auf Helm
    • 14 ATT YM
    • MW20
    • 13 Dex Earring
    • 12/5 Shoe
    • 7 Dex Sad Mask
    • 5 ATT 2 DEX Cape
    • 18/0 Bot
    • 21/3 Top
    • T6 Monster Book Ring
    Hawthorn 160 Paladin :
    upload_2023-11-1_20-1-34.png

    The prodigal child. An ice cold killer with none of the flash and pizzazz of my Hero, but bred and born to slay CB and Auf. Currently has 160 INT but the potential is there.
    • 145 Claymore
    • 16 BWG
    • 18/5 Bot
    • 20/7 Top
    • 11/3 Shoe
    • 4 Dex Spec
    • 4 Dex Sad Mask
    • 24 Dex Scar
    • 10 Dex Earring
    • 3 ATT 6 DEX Cape
    • MoN
    • T1 Monster Book Ring
    Marasov 153 Unwashed NL:
    upload_2023-11-1_20-1-51.png

    Reaches things my warriors can't reach (CWK boxes, Zak top arm, mobs that are not congregated in large numbers in a small flat area) and FJs around the FM. In other words, absolutely essential.
    • 74/11 DPS
    • 14 YM
    • 7 Dex Sad Mask
    • 27 DEX Bathrobe
    • 12 DEX Shoe
    • 5 ATT 8 DEX Cape
    • 4 DEX Spec
    • 12 LUK 30 HP Earring
    • T4 Monster Book Ring
    CarrierChan 145 Bishop
    upload_2023-11-1_20-2-59.png

    Retired after a 3 hour career of skeles leech. Doesn't HS me, barely contributes to Zak arms, usually dies first in combat. Often questions if existential dread is one of God's trials for his most faithful children. Despite this, earns her place as a venerable matriarch by dint of dragging most my chars from lv.10-75
    • 22 TMA BWG
    • 30 TMA Shield
    • 187 TMA Wand
    • 25 INT Robe
    • 18 INT Cape
    • 7 INT Eye
    • 2 INT 10 SPD Shoes
    • Gen30
    • T1 Monster Book Ring
    Tarnished 177 DK
    upload_2023-11-1_20-4-10.png
    The actual but forgotten first son. Think of Harry Potter living under the closet, minus the magic powers
    • 123 PSB
    • 108 Alchupiz
    • LPQ glasses
    • 26 Dex ZHelm
    • 22 LUK Sauna Robe
    • 21 Avoid Shoes
    • 10 ATT Reverse Gloves
    • 6 DEX 2 STR earrings
    • 15 Avoid 2 LUK Cape
    CarrierSI 130 Bucc:
    upload_2023-11-1_20-13-2.png
    SIs me

    Minigun 161 SE:
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    A specialist at hitting the Chandelier in Core Blaze

    These are my highest income:hr farming methods, but not necessarily my favorite
    • PB. Despite how dry PB can be, the average income is unparalleled. Maybe I'm just high-rolling though
    • 3-man CWK. Conservative estimate is ~25mil/hr revenue (hard to place a number on untradeable stuff), higher if there are MoN buyers. This is the absolute best content in the game, I would do it every day if I could. Maybe 2-man will be on the table in the future, but I would need a 2nd PC.
    • Solo Zakum. Can bring in ~30mil/hr revenue but pot costs, appo costs, and mental tax is astronomical for my chars, it also takes ~45 mins. The only positive thing I have to say about it is that it drops pouch 3 50% of the time.
    • Solo/Duo Core Blaze - ~15-30mil/hr depending on clear speed just based on Pouch 3 rates. Can be much higher if something nice drops, but that's pretty rare.
    • Solo JC - In theory brings in 20-25mil/hr but then I have to drag all my characters up to 7F just for 20 minutes of bossing. I prefer duo just so someone can suffer with me and also door me

    • Solo Scarga Service. I've been too lazy to advertise, and it's hard to compete against the Uncle
    • Solo 7F. This is a forgotten art, I haven't been able to efficiently clear 7F ever since my accuracy was reduced to 160 on my Hero + DK. At its peak it was making ~14mil/hr in mesos/scrolls/eq, but it had value in leeching all my high level chars

    Short Term Goals
    ☐ Acquire >10 Weapon Attack Cape
    ☐ Acquire 1H setup for my warriors

    Long Term Goals
    ☐ Hit 175 on Hawthorn
    ☐ +7 Perfect Judgement
    ☐ 23 ATT BWG
    ☐ White B-tier NLs

    Completed Goals
    • Reliably clear Core Blaze
    • Reliably clear Scarga
     
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    me and kiwizkiwiz following: check
     
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    Excited to see the updates on this journal! Stronk chars indeed!
     
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    2 Week Update!

    I did not get to play as much recently due to some IRL stuff, but a lucky 3att FS drop in PB hard carried my progress

    • 1x Duo Core Blaze: +7 coins
    • 1x Solo Core Blaze: -2 coins
    • 2x Solo JC: +6 coins
    • 2x Krex Duo: -1 coins
    • 2x Zak Trio: -1 coins
    • 2x Scarga Duo: 9 coins
    • 2x Solo Core Blaze: -3 coins
    • 2x Trio CWK: 17 coins
    • 2x Solo Core Blaze: 15 coins
    • 1x Solo JC: +0
    • 1x ~18-man PB: 70 coins
    • 2x Duo JC: +3 coins
    • 2x Trio Scarga: +5 coins

    Total profit: 125 coins. Comes out to be roughly ~25mil/hr of grinding, although if we consider the 3att FS an outlier, it's a modest ~13mil/hr


    Other notable events:
    • Hawthorn reached lv.162
    • Picked up 1 of these bad boys. The plan is to collect ~30 of them and try to get a perfect +3 for a WS project
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    If you are interested I have a 106/8 gun to sell you (judgement)
     
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    cheering you on friend, will send you some stuff sometime MapleF14MapleF2
     
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    Pre Thanksgiving Update:

    • 2x Solo CB: +32 coins
    • 2x Solo JC: +1 coin
    • 1x Solo Scarga: 1 coin
    • 2x Solo JC: 5 coin
    • 1x Duo CB: 7 coin
    • 2x Solo CB: 8 coin
    • 2x Solo CB: 24 coin
    • 1x 5man CWK: 4 coin
    • 2x duo JC: 4 coin
    • 2x duo Scarga: 6 coin
    • 2x duo Scarga: -1 coin
    • 2x Trio Scarga: 5 coin
    • 2x Rav: 3 coin
    • 1x ~16man PB: ~50 coin (MW30!)

    Total Profit: 143 p.coins over approx 18 hrs of grinding, ~25mil/hr in profits
    Once again PB splits are hard carrying the hourly income. At this rate it'll take me just about 2 years to acquire 12k coins

    I've not yet started charging for Scarga service, it's been mostly charity runs so far. Eventually I expect more profit, although once the bonus pouch rate from the event goes away maybe my income will actually go down

    I'm also not sure if I can continue farming CB solo so profitably since idk if it's very kosher to the ToS to leave my SI in the boss map as from time to time the Mavericks will try to focus him in barrel, so I will be using apples to make up the DPM difference, at least until my Pally reaches ~170 and I start taking out INT

    Other notable events:
    • Confessor hits 197!
    • Hawthorn hits 164
    Astute readers may notice Midway has not actually done anything yet. A time will come...

    Hope y'all have a nice holiday
     
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    Very interesting to see the income purely from bossing in comparison with mob farming.

    Following the expert, maybe I should collect 50 daggers before attempting to scroll for a +3 and consider my options if I reach that point.

    Anyway, I ran some code over 10 million loops for depth scrolling, finding the average number of scrolls used to pass 3x30% consecutively.

    Code:
    Computing average attempts for 3 consecutive pass on 30%
    Success count: 194,889 / 10,000,000
    Average attempts before 3 consecutive passes: 51.31109503358322
    
    Code:
    Computing average attempts for 3 consecutive pass on 30%
    Success count: 194,266 / 10,000,000
    Average attempts before 3 consecutive passes: 51.47570341696437
    
    Code:
    Computing average attempts for 3 consecutive pass on 30%
    Success count: 193,376 / 10,000,000
    Average attempts before 3 consecutive passes: 51.71254964421645
    
    1 / (0.3 * 0.3 * 0.3) = 37.037037037
    Gives you the average number of items you can expect to use to pass 3x30%.

    Good luck!
     
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    TGIF update:

    I got a bit lazy with stat tracking this time, partially because I'm in winter break mode, partially because I've mixed up my boss split strats
    • 1x 6-man Auf: -4 coins
    • 2x Duo Scarga: +5 coins
    • 6x Duo JC: +1 coin
    • 2x Solo CB: -5 coins
    • 1x Duo CB: +6 coins
    • 2x Trio CB: +5 coins
    • 10x 4-man CWK: +70 coins
    • 2x Pink Bean: probably ~120 coins (2 MW30s + misc. stuff). I'm too lazy to read the spreadsheet but my PB bank is pretty thicc at this point
    Total Profit 198 coins over approx. 23 hrs of grinding, ~27.55mil/hr (coins are down to 3.2mil :()
    PB hourly profit remains colossal. I hope drops remain good but at this point even a huge dry streak wouldn't bring it down
    Solo CB was pretty sad times, I scuffed one of the runs by attempting to bring SI then protecting the Barrel inside the map, but the Mavericks were having none of it and I had to apple 3x to make up for wasted time and the cleave spiraling out of control. Then it didn't drop anything both runs which was pretty demotivating
    CWK is just as reliable as ever

    Other events:
    upload_2023-12-15_17-19-27.png
    I gained access to this beauty out of a mutually beneficial exchange (totally not gear sharing), my plan is to get a 1h setup for both my Hero+Pally so I can boss without SI because muling my bucc is a huge PITA. Because I don't want to be arsed with DEX builds, I'm only looking for RK and TL Executioners, of which I've boomed countless.
    Sadly 115RK+15w.att shield doesn't beat out my 145 Claymore even without SI, but it's close enough that when I appo, the RK should beat SI-less claymore which might not actually be enough dmg but I haven't tried it yet


    upload_2023-12-15_17-28-13.png
    Hawthorn hits 166; I've lowered her INT to 100, she'll end up 30k/8k which is a pretty awkward amount of MP because Mana Bull still recovers less than 1:1 meso to MP, but I'm too lazy to go further. I'll remove more INT at lv.170 which feels pretty distant. I don't enjoy 7Fing on Pally so she really only gains exp from CB or leech

    upload_2023-12-15_17-32-49.png
    Judgement count has risen to 2; Based on kiwizkiwiz calculation I only need 35.04 more, acquiring them might prove difficult because I'm sure many players along with the 3 other Corsairs in production on ML have already noticed the Judgement market has risen considerably


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    Midway finally does something; I've actually been card hunting verrry slowly for months at this point but now she's at T6 Ring with a sizeable gach pool. I'll open them once I reach T10, Schrodinger's Chaos Scroll keeps me motivated to hunt
     
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    After crafting, scrolling a bunch of daggers and dragon khanjars, I'd say just scroll whenever you feel like it. The deviation is huge, numbers are very likely not even gona be close to the expected value most of the time in such a small sample size.

    So one strategy I can suggest is to try passing 3x30% every time you get a gun so that you can proceed to the next step at the earliest time possible. I actually hit 3x30% on the very first dagger out of a few dozens but boom on the 4th slot, because I needed at least 4x30% to have a viable upgrade path. Unfortunately the remaining daggers didn't survive past 2x30%. I also had 4x30% consecutive pass on shields when scrolling 8 of them, but on two separate 2x30% unfortunately.
     
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    Hmmm yeah I thought about this too, maybe I'll just get lucky and hit a 3x30 early into the mass scrolling strat

    Is there any merit to cycle scrolling then? I guess in theory you could make a bunch of +2s, hit a +3 early on, and get to resell all your +2 perfects, whereas if you went for 3x30 immediately on each gun, every failed gun would either have missing slots or be dust. There's also the mental bonus where I feel like I'm making big progress just by accumulating clean guns MapleF3
     
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    Wide scrolling lacks merit in terms of time progression; on the contrary, it inherently entails a longer overall scrolling time. For simplicity, assuming a scroll passes 1/3 of the time and you want 2 consecutive passes, wide scrolling's best-case scenario requires at least 4 scrolling attempts. You need to get at least 3 equipment by passing 1 each for the first layer, then attempt the 2nd layer to pass the 2nd time. In contrast, deep scrolling's best-case scenario is 2 consecutive passes on the first equipment, drastically decreasing the time to the goal.

    While the chance for wide and deep scrolling is entirely up to luck, wide scrolling does has its merit from an economic standpoint. Adopting wide scrolling typically means you are holding assets longer, and if the market were to suddenly sway positively for you, such as an increase in value, you have the choice to turn it into a big profit. Although it wouldn't make sense if you are aiming at an end game gear, as it means selling your chance away for profit. As you progress toward the end-game curve, you are more likely to face supply issues rather than wealth concerns.

    It may feel like you are likely to make it when you have a good number of guns to work on at one point in time, and it indeed does because all your attempts are focused on that particular session. But if you don't, you are going to have a shitty feeling because the impact is concentrated at that moment as well.

    Ultimately, you have to choose the path that will destroy you the least but not to the point it completely destroys your motivation to move on. For me, I prevent myself from reaching the state of completely depleting my resources to keep going. In the case of the Dragon Khanjar, the approach I took was to first save enough for a 32wa if one happens to pop out in the market, which took over a month to accumulate. I then use the excess wealth pass the savings to collect clean perfect Dragon Khanjars over time when the price is decent, usually around 25-35 mil per piece I would purchase them. If I do end up failing miserably when trying to make it myself, at least I still have the funds and won't put myself in the scenario where one appears, and I regretted spending them away.

    A good approach is probably to save enough for a +3 gun if one ever appears in the market, while attempting to do so, essentially taking advantage of the server’s luck rather than just your own. Whichever approach you take to scroll is up to your preference. In such a heavily RNG nature, you are mostly left to respond to the outcome rather than trying to force a certain outcome, and things can change depending on the cost and supply of the materials at that point in time as well.
     
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    Maybe I should be buying fewer Judgements
     
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    It's 2024 and we getting back into the grind after taking it easy for the winter

    New year, new accounting - AKA I'm too lazy to figure out 6 weeks of terrible Google Sheets logging. I'm eyeballing it right now and it looks to be ~250c gained over ~35 hrs of gameplay. Major points were ~100c from 4 PB's (and -15c from a run that I overslept on lel), another 50c from 4x auf helm svc, every other coin was attained arduously with great effort. Perhaps a reverse highlight is 2 coins from 12x JC solos, that stingy mother trucker

    But all these numbers are behind us, because we've hit a new milestone - I am now 250c in debt

    midwayguns.png

    A +3 Judgement fell out of the sky into the Free Market. For the low low price of about 3x what I've made total in this journal (1.5k coin) I was able to snag this WS project. Where did the other 1000c come from??? There's always money for guns usamushusamushusamush

    I have also prepared something special this update, an inside look at how every day P.Coins are made in one of our sweatshops, err... farms

    Presenting, ML's least scuffed Hero-Paladin CB solo. Another 30 of these and I'll be out of debtstareyesmush
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8gv-5Cvm0&t=191s&ab_channel=TarnishedML
     
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    Yeah haha better bean counting will be back on the menu for future updates
     

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