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QUEST BOOK RING!! Just like monster book ring!

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by Squiddy, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Squiddy
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    With the new areas being released, it's hard for people who already hit high levels to go back to washing again to re-adjust their max hp to boss in new regions!

    So here comes the quest ring! Just like the monster book ring, once you hit different levels, it gives you better and better stats and hp. And unlike collecting monster cards, you finish 100 unique quests per level! (not party quests and repeated quests) Which could be as grindy as collecting monster cards. So it will be very hard but rewarding and it will propose a new way of hitting required max hp! :D
     
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  2. Midnight
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    Good idea! I think HP requirements/supplements are pretty well balanced right now but good idea
     
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    I do like this idea. People have argued in the past that the rewards of the quests themselves are good enough incentive to do them, but if we're being real, the majority of them are garbage and give trash items/trash exp.
    Like the addition of Monster Cards gave new life to forgotten areas of the game, a similar incentive for completing as many quests as possible would do that twofold. Maybe the reward shouldn't be on the same level as the MB ring -- 1,000 HP is a LOT, and unlike the sudden release of Monster Book where nobody had any cards to start, some players would be able to "max out" the ring as soon as it came out -- BUT it would be nice if questing was acknowledged in a similar way.

    tldr: More quest love pls!
     
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    Toad = 9.3k HP+HB : to survive (this isnt a mandatory boss to run. its optional)
    Neo Tokyo= 7.7k HP: to survive (you learn to dodge each attack patterns, you honestly dont need any washing tbh.
    Horntail= 5.6k HP : to survive (you actually only need 5.6k total to survive HT, if you have a really good DK to HB you when dispels comes.

    feel like, a quest ring wouldnt be fair for those who didnt do any of the level cap quests. and unfair since anyone at the top of rankings already have an advantage. i believe there is another forum post that had this suggestion in the past.
     
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    The level cap quests could be solved similarly to how you can purchase the PQ boss cards that you missed, or by removing those "missable" quests from the total count.
    As for "having an advantage," I can see your point, but was it a competition to begin with? The quest rankings have already been a part of the server for a very long time, and there are quite a few players who have completed over a thousand quests. Is it really unfair if they already went out of their way to do them all?
    I happen to think that the current HP washing situation is alright thanks to the MB ring, and that if a quest ring was implemented, it doesn't need to have any HP. But would it really be so broken if it was like, +5 all stats at max level?

    Questing deserves more love!
     
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    While monster ring represents you as a grinder, and quest ring would represent you as a quester. :D
    Also out of all the quests, less than 2% actually have a maximum level cap (this is including maple island quests) that say you cannot complete a quest after a certain level. And even if they exist, feature to purchase them should solve that issue immediately.

    Stat doesn't have to be anywhere near monster ring's! If it gave hp maybe like 250 ish at max? Just like an added bonus and a sign of recognition I guess, majority of the quests takes A LOT of money and time to complete, and most of the rewards are incredibly below average.

    And because it has been suggested in the past, doesn't mean we can't try again! :D
     
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    The monster book ring wasn't fair to anyone who had already leveled past PQ range and couldn't get those boss cards through the usual means. It was also unfair to everyone who had already leveled deep into the game when the cards were introduced because they had to spend extra time going back and killing things they already killed to get the cards while not getting useful amounts of EXP, while new players could get the cards and work towards reaching those high levels at the same time.

    More importantly, why anyone would be concerned with fairness is beyond me because these rings aren't a competition.
     
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    Honestly I'm not a big fan of the server just getting progressively easier over time. This server was intended to be hard, and it's starting to lose that feeling with all the new content that continually buffs past the old content, or else it would just be dead on arrival.

    I don't even feel like a 250 HP ring is being honest with itself. What it's really asking is to buff ranged classes(and shadowers). No warriors would need it and for mages it would be marginally useful. Night Lords don't need to be any stronger by getting rid of their only major drawback.

    At least with the monster book there is a lot of flavorful content and dialogue that at least feels unique. Copying that and doing it again for quests just feels a bit cheap. Copy-pasted content just feels so ehhhhhhh when I play games, like in Fallout 4 when I hear "Another settlement needs your help!"

    It's that or the developers put in a lot of time to create a unique system that still feels good, but then again at that point is it even worth the effort when it's a ring that is essentially equivalent to about a dozen washes?

    I also like the monster book because at its inception everyone was on an even playing ground. If it were implemented now there would be a lot of people who can just click through NPC dialogue and automatically have more HP.
     
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    Actually, pq boss cards are not mandatory to get t10 ring, there are more than enough monster cards and just recently shrine and showa cards were added which makes it even easier.
     
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    If Medals were introduced, I think the Quest Specialist Medal would be more than sufficient. Until then, I don't think another ring would be good for the server.
     
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    boss cards you can purchase. so is it fair, i did 100 PPQ's and stayed lvl 100 to carry people and after i past lvl100, they release the pirate lord chair? so i have to buy it now , because they decide to impliment boss chairs?. its not spending extra time just because you are high lvl. everyone is on the same page. +all stat rings are usually event rings and should be kept that way. i was lvl 180 doing monster book ring, and i got pretty good exp doing all the high lvl places. As a high lvl player, i can disagree on how its "unfair". it seemed fair to me
     
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    Do you have any idea how many of the "top ranking" players have done the majority of quests? The answer would probably surprise you.

    Not many of highest level players have done all the quests because.. well, in order to get so much exp, they would have actually spent their time grinding at high exp maps (and probably selling/buying leeches too). They didn't waste their time flying back and forth between Magatia, El Nath, and Victoria Island 50 times to deliver a bunch of bears asses to NPCs.
     
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    y'know he meant quest rankings right...
    top ranking questers have already completed a majority of the quests...
     
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    Ok let's put this in another perspective. If a new level 120+ equip comes out like new weapons or armor or earring or something (*cough* Element Pierce) is that unfair to all low level players who have not achieved that level yet?

    Please say no. The common sense answer is "no, that is not unfair". And.. I think we've already had this sort of discussion before now that I think about it. High level players who spent their time grinding instead of questing already got a huge benefit from massively increased stats, better skills, and more HP just from leveling up, compared to people who quested. What's even better is that if they want, they can go back and do the quests pretty easily seeing as the mobs are nothing to them. The only tedious part is collecting lots of etcs and traveling.
     
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    I sure wish we implement the Blessing of the Fairy skill then. 20 weapon attack and 40 magic attack seems great! You betcha it'll benefit those with high level characters. Anyone can just level to 200. The only tedious part is the grinding but hey Shaolin makes it easy!

    To make my position clear though, a questing medal without stats would be pretty nice to have.
     
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    I actually really love the idea of this, please make it a thing :eek:
     
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    i disagree i dont want to do quest for end game ring... please dun force me monster card book is already bad
     
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