The reason why our ToS needs to change

I’m not in favor of the argument that we should be ban someone because we are afraid of losing players. Power, popularity, status are typical real life examples of how people get away with things. It can be speeding, harassment, etc.

I do think that standing your ground is totally acceptable. Just don’t escalate it to affect other players. Examples can be smega wars. You think you’re standing your ground, but to others you could just be just as annoying as the other person. Not you specifically. If someone is sending pornographic images through discord, report it not only to MapleLegends staff, but also discord authorities.

Lastly, I’m not sure what you trying to gain by posting screenshots. If you black all the ign and stuff, maybe it’s fine, would probably have to ask what format is acceptable to staff. But what the staff is trying to avoid is public name calling. Unfortunately, this is the internet, it’s not a private and anonymous domain.

 

heads you're banned tails you're banned

 

People who are already planning on leaving because of the policy changes and annoying rulings don’t care about a ban. That’s why these policies are stupid to begin with. The excessive policing only serves to push people away from engaging as a community, and the punishment doesn’t match the purpose of policy to begin with.

A dictatorship where people have the freedom to leave doesn’t make sense unless it’s worth staying in.

 

So a tl;dr of what you guys are suggesting is: no account ban after 4 harassment bans?

Edit: How would you reword the current / new ToS to be better? What would be a proper punishment, and what would you do if they keep accumulating harassment bans?

 

double or nothing?

 

Very convenient for someone who has already been banned 3 times for harassment to say that the ToS does not work now that it has been changed for the person to suffer a permanent ban when committing this infraction for the 4th time.

The ToS does work, but as a disciplinarian, the person committed the offense and was punished for it, in the case of a temporary ban on the account, when the person returns, he must understand that what he did was wrong and he must not act in such a way again. Once a person repeats some harassment action 4 times it means that he refuses to learn and behave according to the "law" and therefore a more severe action must be taken such as a permanent ban. ToS's mission is not to make people friendlier, but to teach people when they do something wrong and that action should not be repeated.

To be honest, the old ToS was not being very effective in this part of the person being permanently banned because it required that he be banned 3 times in a certain segment of the harassment infractions, which were considered 3 different types, that is, he could commit infractions and be banned 2 times in each of the 3 segments, totaling 6 bans, and continue free to play. This doesn't seem right correct? The new changes make more sense, if a person of misconduct is still someone who spreads toxicity while playing and doesn't learn regardless of the punishments then he doesn't deserve to be there for the good of the server.

In the past I was banned for harassment only once because of the owner of this post and I recognized that my conduct was not acceptable, my intention was to respond to an offense that I suffered with another offense, I agree that I was wrong and duly punished what was left for me was learn from my mistake and when I could go back to playing and be a better person and not have this kind of attitude again, I'm still a better person to this day and that's why I haven't committed any more infractions, unlike those who accused me who were also banned for harassment at that time situation and apparently he didn't learn from his mistakes and today he already has 3 bans for harassment behind his back.

I think it's ridiculous for a person to start begging for mercy when he starts to feel the noose tightening around his neck.

 

Is DISCRIMINATORY harassment not a serious topic???

 

I do understand fael's post is about the amount of strikes. But MOST of the complaining regarding the terms of service harassment section is almost never about the amount of strikes.. it's what can get you one of those strikes. Since the inception of new harassment policy, we've seen some extremely asinine bans.

 

read it again

 

Tbh I kind of agree. Many harassment bans involve things outside of the game itself, such as infractions which occur on Discord, which seems odd to have any form of permanent ban (which includes account bans) in-game. When a player blatantly breaks rules by in-game actions such as through hacking or RWT, it makes sense for in-game punishment. I can see this extending to speech within the game as well. But it gets a bit hazy when you start extending these boundaries to things like Discord messages. I don't think there's an easy answer but account bans for things that don't happen in-game feel out of place to me.