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Change equips even while fighting

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by HotCow, Oct 9, 2023.

  1. HotCow
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    Hello I'd like to propose that we can switch gears even when "out of breath"
    (if this is even possible to change)
    [​IMG]

    DK's mobbing skill and bossing skill require 2 different weapon types. For mobbing the pole-arm is better and for bossing, the spear. Just imagine a world where a DK can switch to a pole-arm in a second- when needed. It would definitely award an active and attentive play-style to optimize the damage output.

    For heroes / palladins the guardian skill is mostly considered a meme, (if you're using 2-hand that is) but what if you can switch to a shield in a blink of an eye? I am not sure how helpful this would be, but hey it's something that came to mind. Maybe it can also help climbing ropes in HT aswell.

    But not only for warriors, it would be very helpful to be able to switch to INT gear mid fight for our washers out there aswell.

    Let me know your thoughts on this, are there any cons I've missed?
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    EDIT 3-11-23
    To quote one of our finest mages in the Legends world, it would be nice to see AM get a small buff in bossing content. Switching weapons for the attack bonus of their mobbing or single target attack, rewards those that pay close attention and invites players to be more attentive.
    Quote from -ovv it would certainly be a huge QoL improvement if this was possible!
    Quote from DrChuchu it would be a huge party boost if even our warrior brethren could help those in need.
     
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    Adding pet hp/mp and autopots while getting hit mid fight is a nightmare for any class other than thief.
     
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    Actually being able to use two different wands as AM would be kinda neat in some content, it would slightly reward the attentive player that managed to swap around smoothly depending on the situation.
     
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    Interesting! These could be clever ways of adding more interactive gameplay for certain characters!
     
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    I agree, this along with perhaps dropping pots for your teammates shouldn't be a nightlord/shad privilege
     
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    disagree

    and make shadow shifting put you out of breath

    Devilish
     
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    I can see this being really neat.

    I can also see this resulting in a lot of players misclicking and dropping their stuff mid-fight. Not really a downside, just a potentiality.
     
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    The "out of breath" thing in general is kind of a worthless mechanic. I don't think modern MS even has it anymore, though I might be wrong.
    I don't really get why you're punished from doing any inventory/equipment management or changing channel from simply getting hit/being in alert stance after using a skill.

    I think at least removing it for pet pot potion switching and gear switching would add a lot of QoL, especially the latter for Arch Mage and DK. Heck, even Heroes and Paladins who have a 1h and 2h weapon could benefit from it, in the case where your bucc(s) die or disconnect.
     
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    based suggestion imo.

    I also assume to switch out between weapons you're suggesting to click on it. A side change I would like to add on would be to allow equips to be added onto Keys so we can tap than click to switch, promoting switchers. Also indirectly helps avoid accidental dropping of items when at rest position.

    OR have Pole Fury switch to the 1st Pole-arm detected in Eqp tab on activation, vice-versa. But of course this would only lead to skills requiring different weapons to take effect only unlike Brandish 1H + Shield to 2H.
     
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    No.

    too custom. Keep it oldschool.
     
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    Even though the unable to change channels is annoying, I think this should stay. Too easy to exploit if you can just change channels in an instance while mid fight.
     
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    Modern MS still has the mechanics, but it's only activated when you attack, not when you are attacked. (This was a fairly recent change too, GMS got it only last year.)
     
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    Bump
     
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    I tried looking this up, I couldn't find a video of what you're mentioning.

    Do you think you could make a short video to show as an example?
     
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    Ok imagine being in zakum and changing equips and it actually lets you, despite having been hit recently.
     
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    The whole PA/Spear distinction is like as if NL had to put on their mobbing claw to use Avenger. It actually wouldn't be as bad because you could simply shifter to swap gear as a thief.

    This suggestion would be awesome to see, there's a lot of bossing situations on my DK where I wish I could use my PA but I'm not about to walk 100 feet away and hide for 7 seconds to pull it out. As a side effect this would also put some extra differentiation between DK and Hero, because otherwise Pally is the optimal 3-6 target cleaver depending on elemental advantage
     
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    I gotta see it to believe it, I know what it meant I just wanted to see it that was how it is without using third-party programs.

    Don't want any DOTcurrency type sus going on
     
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    Can confirm it is the case :)
     
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    Yeah turned out I was spewing misinformation. What got changed was that you can do things like change channel after getting attacked (but not attacking); you still need to not get hit to change equips (eg. running far away and/or binding the boss)
     
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