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DPM Compilation

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Gurk, Mar 13, 2022.

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    I accept your apology. And for the record, I enjoyed reading the melee vs ranged thread and I think the forums need more content like that.
     
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    I apologize again if you're claiming to be genuine, I mean no quarrel. I enjoy the discussion as well. I personally don't care about being right nearly as much as I care about the truth. If I were to be presented with undeniable facts that I could get behind, I'd be the first to agree melees are actually good, and my whole post was just misinformation. I've definitely learned a lot from this post. Is it proper for me to ask you your unbiased thoughts on the discussion? It feels like there's a lot to learned from veterans like yourself. (Feel free to reply on the other thread to not flood this one with unrelated content).
     
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    If you value wing/arm damage then shadower can put up decent numbers but for heads it's definetly one of the weaker attackers.
     
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    Papulatus DPM 2 (Echo, MW20, SE, SI, Cider):

    Screenshot_6.png
     
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    PB DPM20
    MW20 sometimes, mw30 sometimes, SI SE Echo Apple and being pt lead
    Got sed like 4 times so there is definitely room for improvement.
    upload_2022-12-29_21-55-1.png
     
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    Pink bean dpm 33 statue (mostly had si/se/echo) apple ,
    upload_2022-12-29_20-26-27.png
    40 body (si/se/echo) last 4-5mins was not on apple, body phase slightly under 40mins
    upload_2022-12-29_20-26-42.png

    range on pb buff / echo / mw30
    upload_2022-12-29_20-27-8.png
     
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    Nameless: DPM 10 - Role as Pinner with BM

    upload_2022-12-30_22-6-14.png

    upload_2022-12-30_22-6-16.png

    MW30 + Mesogear Ring
    upload_2022-12-30_22-7-19.png upload_2022-12-30_22-9-2.png
     
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    Happy New Year ! What's better than to start the New Year with more Shad DPM insight ?

    Core Blaze: DPM - duo with Paladin.

    Due to the versatility of shad's skillset, DPM is divided into 4 sections to better paint the full picture, each with their own description.

    Section 1: DPM 8

    upload_2023-1-1_12-21-27.png

    Started with Nate up to the spawn of the first guard, after which 2x Nate + 1 BoomStep combo was used to stun the guard into place. Could have done 3x Nate + 1 BoomStep combo however decided to leave room for error (BoomStep 70% Stun rate). This combo was used up to a total of 2 guards have spawned. After which the 1x Nate + 1x BoomStep combo was used to focus on Core while simultaneously stunning + killing the guards. As BoomStep would hit a max of 4 targets, once we have 3 guards spawned, BoomStep + Band of Thieves Combo was used up to the point where only 2 guards is left and we repeat the 1x Nate + 1x BoomStep combo.

    Section 2: DPM 8

    upload_2023-1-1_12-21-37.png

    This DPM consists of the max cleave damage dealt in core, where the BoomStep + Band of Thieves Combo was used more frequently with 4 targets and the 1x Nate + 1x BoomStep combo used with 3 targets.

    Section 3: DPM 8
    upload_2023-1-1_12-21-41.png

    This DPM captures the entire process where the guards begin to cease spawning. Similarly to Section 1, 1x Nate + 1x BoomStep combo was used with 2 guards present and the 2x Nate + 1 BoomStep combo was used with the last remaining guard. For this section, we can see the max cleave damage starting to die down and returning to something similar to Section 1.

    Section 4: DPM 3
    upload_2023-1-1_12-21-45.png

    Only Nate was used in this section of DPM.

    This DPM was compiled with Maverick controls was in place - BoomStep/ Nate to stun & eliminate.

    Cider + MW20 for the entire run:
    upload_2023-1-1_12-49-32.png



    In addition to this, below is Dummy DPM data - Cider + MW20

    Single target - DPM 1 (Nate only without dash)

    upload_2023-1-1_12-51-21.png

    3 target - DPM 1 (BoomStep + Nate combo)

    upload_2023-1-1_12-51-29.png

    3 target - DPM 1 (BoomStep + Band of Thieves combo)

    upload_2023-1-1_12-52-10.png

    4 target - DPM 1 (Nate + BoomStep combo)

    upload_2023-1-1_12-52-45.png

    4 target - DPM 1 (BoomStep + Band of Thieves combo)

    upload_2023-1-1_12-53-9.png
     
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    You are the goat mate! ❤️
     
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    Sullivan has already made a great post where one can see how pog a shad can be. In addition to that, I've decided to do some DPMs myself. My shad has alot of room for improvement gearwise so its not quite up there with Sullivan yet (but its a start right?).

    Gear & Stats
    So lets start with a general overview. My shad is geared for the timeless set, which gives me the burden of higher basestats (for now atleast).
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    Main improvement areas are:
    -my gloves (12 watt +20 stats ripperoni),
    -my overall (40 stats, but +6 so shouldnt be too hard),
    -my helmet 17/33/13/16 :( and
    -my pescas. The damn thing is 125 watt but my perf +8 from leveling is still clean waiting for ws10 funds.

    What about the shoes? 3/15/10, I'm happy with those.

    DPM
    Now on to the DPMs (all 1 minute on MW20 and cider, nate has not been charged at the start for any of these). As much as they're lower than some other shads out there, I'm not entirely unhappy about them.
    *These are all dummy DPM. Its not a habit of mine to DPM check in bosses.

    1 Target (Nate without dash)
    [​IMG]

    2 Target (Nate+Bstep)
    [​IMG]

    3 Target
    -Pure Bstep
    [​IMG]
    -Nate+bstep
    [​IMG]
    -BoT+Bstep
    [​IMG]

    4 Target
    -Pure Bstep
    [​IMG]
    -Nate+Bstep
    [​IMG]
    -BoT+Bstep
    [​IMG]

    As much as I am not "toptier" DPM, I do want to add that shads passively raise the squads DPM (where applicable, think smoke for freefire & higher survival of others) and that my DPM post doesn't account for charged nates, IED and the different circumstances in bossing. For that I'd simply have to DPM myself in bosses.

    However, I strongly believe shads are not "garbage" and can in fact excel in bosses (think nib, zakum (yes I've whited NLs and BMs here with ease regardless of the number of WCs) and HT. DPM is largely gear, but also playerskill, and it doesn't matter how well geared you are, if you're dead you do 0 DPM :^)

    *Smol disclaimer, this is personal opinion and experience.
     
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    Great work sulli! Yea, this is so much easier to see the variances in shad gameplays in core management especially. Having duo-ed core on a NL with a shad and now with this data is so much more useful.
     
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    Pog!
     
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    HT DPM 45 on HT buff, Echo, MW30, Diamond Arrows (range is on htb)
     
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    PaxillPaxill help
     
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    dpm 20 body
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    Statue 30 (Echo, MW20, Apple):
    statue30.PNG

    Bird-last strat. Ate several seds.

    Body 20 (Echo, MW20, Apple):
    body20.PNG

    Bean was all over the place with the enactment of the Gork™ bucc strat.
    Died once (was res'd relatively quickly) and was sed once.

    Range (Echo, MW20, Cider):
    range.PNG
     
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    PB Body DPM 20 (Echo, MW30, SE, SI, Apple):
    body20_2.PNG

    Got sed once.

    And the run from last week.
    PB Body DPM 20 (Echo, MW30, SE, SI, Apple):
    body20_1.PNG

    Also sed once.
     
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    Margana DPM 10 (Echo, MW20, SE, SI, Cider, Dispelling):
    upload_2023-1-11_2-9-42.png
     
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