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My TMA Sheet

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Ainz, May 16, 2024.

  1. Ainz
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    Henlo!

    My old TMA sheet has been passed around on Discord for a while, but it was kinda lackluster.
    Today I updated it!
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    (Any grey entries are either above 2k TMA or impossible due to elemental immunity)

    This isn't a complete list, but it should cover at least a decent chunk of the grinding/leeching/farming options (newer) mages can explore.
    In case you're curious about a mob on the list, I recommend JafelJafel 's awesome TMA calculator tool.

    In case there are any inaccuracies or important missing entries in the sheet, please do point them out and I'll edit the sheet accordingly :)

    Kind regards,
    Ainz
     
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    Our TMA sheet. :heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat:
     
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    You could sort the list by monster HP in order to normalize out elemental effects in the ordering. To do so, you would just move each of the holy weak mobs further down the list.

    Also, thoughts on swapping out the red on N/A cells, since they're currently drawing the eye to those spots, instead of away from (as they're not really relevant). Something like a light grey would do better.
     
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    Both good points, ty!:) I'll have another look when I get back home. Might just add a HP column, as its pretty useful information regardless.
     
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    This was very convenient timing since me and Repairman were talking abouf HT clienting bish+attacker, but didn't know 1h dark tma. Neither of us could remember
     
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    Edited the original post to incorporate KrythanKrythan 's suggestions :) Though I do notice it now messes with the 1hit vs 2hit numbers, might swap those out for 'Damage required' or something of the sort.
     
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    Noob question here:

    Are TMAs shown based on not using an ele wand?

    I mean, if an IL/FP uses their respective ele wand matching their ulti affinity, would that lower the needed TMA by the 25% that the wand gives in order to reach the shown 1-2 hit kill?

    Hope that made sense
     
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    It takes into account for ele wand boost already. At least for certain entries I'm familiar with.
     
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    those are rough thresholds (but not by that much) since int varies a lot
     
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    Yea mages are weird, my bish had 1295 tma at one point and I would 2h a skele once every like, 20-30mins it was really annoying lol
     
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    This is great, thanks! I keep coming back often to check this sheet!

    In Ulu3, I noticed that the 1108 TMA for i/l listed in Nise's guide seems more accurate. At 1106 TMA I was still not 1-hitting consistently, but 1108 seems to be enough.
     
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    TMA-sheets are never entirely accurate to your own situation because your total int influences your damage output.
    If you have 500 int then you'll need 1120 tma, if you have 1000 int then you need 1093 tma.

    You can take the listed values as a rough benchmark, not as exact number
     
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    Ahh I see, now some of the discussion earlier in the thread makes more sense to me! I tried playing around a bit with the linked TMA calculator, I guess that's the way to go to get exact numbers. Thanks a lot!
     
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    Is there a means to calculate the tma's for max meteor/blizz, but low levels of ele amp?

    I did kind of a dirty version of it and essentially did tma requirement x1.40 (or level of amp I wanted to test for) but always found the napkin math requirement was inaccurate, and was able to reduce much farther than anticipated. It would be nice to be able to fine tune it so a specific mage enjoyer was able to calculate costs of "training" at one spot vs the other
     

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