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A question about HP washing.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TommyFrogs, Sep 19, 2022.

How many people engage in hp washing?

Poll closed Sep 20, 2022.
  1. 30%

    2.6%
  2. 90%

    86.8%
  3. 50%

    10.5%
  1. TommyFrogs
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    TommyFrogs Blue Snail

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    I am currently looking for a server to play. My main issue is I hate hp washing. How much of this server's economy and players engage in hp washing? I feel when people do hp washing fun dies and the server feels like a job.

    Thanks in advance :)
     
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  2. Chew
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    Chew Headless Horseman

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    We do HP wash a lot. Just have a look at the scroll prices.
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  3. fael
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    fael Nightshadow

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    staff plan to make things easier for hp issues. we dont know exactly what but they said about it on roadmap.
    i dont like hp wash but after i learned some tricks it became much easier, i recommend you do the same.
    if you want i can help you, fael #2318
     
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  4. Chew
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    Chew Headless Horseman

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    Pretty much everything is avaiable with little effort, except for pink bean which is the outlier. The amount of washing you need to do, in order to gather 12k hp clean is literally stupid, to the point where people are leeching characters just to be able to play pink bean lategame.

    Simple fix is just to lower the damage of pink beans big bang attack substantially.
     
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    Thank you for the prices.
     
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    I hp washed on once before and it didn't feel fun or rewarding to me at all. I personally do not like hp washing in any form regardless of how easy or hard the process is.
     
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    If you don't like hp washing, I wouldn't recommend this server. The mechanic is built into the current meta. Many players like to claim it's optional, as it only restricts certain classes from certain content. However, even if you agree with that statement, I guarantee you won't enjoy talking seeing it, or discussing it - and the general discourse on the server will likely get very annoying very quickly.
     
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    Where is the 100% option?
     
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    If thats the case, you will either have to accept playing an extremely crippled character, or find another server
     
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    Well. He could play mage or warrior and be fine?
     
  11. CreamPuffDad
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    Forums: washing is optional!
    Also forums: unwashed characters are crippled characters.

    For reference, it's the same in-game. You'll find people telling you that it's optional, but then they'll add that it's "recommended" with an implied "mandatory".
     
  12. fartsy
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    there were notices for old players at least since 2018 to chill with telling newer players to hp wash prob due to some ****y server. the narrative of washing optional since then has often been thrown around with full knowledge it really isn't the case

    when i started the recommended base int was 50; now it's prob 200-250 and increasing still
     
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    The reason your get contradictory answers is because they come from different people, you certainly won't catch me saying "washing is optional" in this day and age


    Even mages and warriors would be extremely crippled for high level content if you did 0 washing.
     
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    It started to become a more serious outcry when Croosade came out back in 2018ish which offered orbs to gain HP. This started the era of the userbase split where users started to go to every other existing server to beg for solutions to HP as they did. Unity more was just seen as the "legends with washing fixed" due to similar rates as well as ex-staff/players

    I think it's also more just how everything matured over the years. People gain more and more experience and want min-max more and more. People also find more "strats" to milk even more HP out of washing in the sacrifice of time and effort. Washing is definitely a problem, but those that overreact about it usually are the ones that compare min-maxing as the only way to do it, which is just wrong... In end all systems are just annoying to deal with, because there's no way to go back (with that character) once you go a way, which is discouraging for many once they find out they didn't do the most "min-maxing" method of washing (or washed at all).
     
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    The people that say washing is a problem are the same people that believe their NL needs 25k hp without buffs (at lvl 165) to participate in a PB run.
     
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    Washing is optional because you can bloodwash. :yay:
     
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  18. LeonardoJF
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    Peopele ask for new content
    When new content release they surprise that need HP to content
    Then they be mad with wash..

    people are trickys
     
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    Thanks for the blunt reply. Gathering all the replies it seems like this is the case.

    Thank you everyone for the great replies :)
     
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