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Ainz Progresses a Poor Ranged Attacker

Discussion in 'MapleLegends Journeys' started by Ainz, Jan 24, 2021.

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    time is ticking better hurry up with my mesos before i take u down with me
     
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    Why don’t you main Itadakimasu instead of ShadAinz? He is much faster and can freeze his opponents
     
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    Speedrunning as many levels as I can cram in before the end of the years. Confident I can hit 169 to start running Namie, hopeful I might even hit 170 to start running BGAs.
    Fwiw: Here's the exp required:
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    Honestly, the next like ~8 levels open up so much new interesting content. Namie, NT2, BGA, Toad(?), PB, Auf?!

    Mayhaps I'm starting to slightly regret not washing harder. I think I'll do the HP Challenges if hitting 180 ever becomes a realistic possibility.

    PS: Your questions have been noted and will be answered!
     
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    Ding! I wanted to hit 169 before posting my End of Year thread and we just did. So let's get to it!

    The post will be roughly structured along the following chapters:

    1. Reflecting on Maple goals and progress in 2024
    2. Reflecting on IRL 2024
    3. What’s to come for 2025?
    4. AMA
    5. Thanks



    1. Reflecting on Maple goals and progress in 2024

    Like I mentioned a couple posts back, 2024 felt like a bit of a standstill when it comes to Maple. As such, I’ve gone back through all my 2024 posts and collected every goal/plan I set for myself:


    June 23rd:
    June 28th (Reflecting on my first solo zakum attempt):
    July 17th:
    Sept 17th: My inherited gear got uninherited, time for the rebuild:
    Sept 26th: Rebuild part 2:
    In hindsight, I’m pleased to see I didn’t actually set as many unrealistic goals for myself this year as I have done in the past. Most goals were related to (further) preparing both my setup and my hands for multiattacking. Thankfully, ‘progressing towards a viable multi-attacking setup’ is such a blanket statement that virtually everything I do (making meso, leveling up attackers, leeching new (relevant) mules) is considered progress.


    Tackling the goals one by one:

    - Get my shad to 180 for potentially running PB [ ]
    - Figure out an efficient solo zakky setup [ ]
    - Re-explore what bosses I can currently solo/duo efficiently and try out new content [x]
    - Finish leeching up another wave of mules [90/140]
    - Accumulate NX for soontm 30k Shad (or at least enough to get the hp/mp washes done) [1.8m banked + 400k spent / 2.9m]
    - At this point I really wanted my shad to reach 4/25 base. Thanks to NightzNightz and SobletSoblet for talking me out of this. [ ]
    - Make Timeless Earrings for my shad [x]
    - Make 16 att gloves [ ]
    - Get an SE mule on a separate account. [ 90/140 ]
    - Keep on running regular content on the individual attackers (perhaps dipping my toes in duo attacking or muling a bishop for practice) [x]
    - Levels, levels, levels. [ ? ]


    That last point is an interesting one… While it is hard to define at what point I’ve actually reached this goal, I think it’s a good time to compare my characters’ levels between January 1st 2024 and now.

    ShadAinz (Shad): Lvl 153 -> 169
    Accuse (NL): 143 -> 150
    SnootBoop (Bish): 160 -> 166
    Itadakimasu (I/L): 164 -> 165 (Lmao)
    Reoru (Hero): 141 -> 148
    ConeHead (BM): 138 -> 148

    All in all, this progress seems…lackluster. The progress on my shadower is pretty nice, but I think I could’ve reached similar results in 1-2 months of playing if I had more time available or actually spent my time effectively.

    Granted, I’ve also spent some time on leeching up a new wave of mules/attackers:

    AllByMyself (New SE MM): Lvl 90/130
    Kesshi (New Pally): Lvl 90/140
    AinzHSMule (Go figure): Lvl 90/82
    Kerupuk (New NL/Shad): 90/140

    Oh well, no time to dwell!

    2. Reflecting on IRL 2024

    As a bit of a bridge into the next section, I’d like to reveal my new hobby over the past month(s): Playing MapleLegends on my controller while on the exercise bike.

    At the end of July, I had realized my gut had been growing at a more impressive pace than my ML character infrastructureOnionF4, so I decided to hop on the scales again. This led to the discovery that I had gained an astonishing 8.1kg (17.8lbs) over the span of 5 monthsOnionF4.
    Combined with the fact that I got massively outdone by a couple of my friends during a hiking trip we did in august, this meant it was time to get back in shape again.

    While some say “You can’t out-exercise a bad diet”, I firmly believe in the contrary. Losing weight is math and, simply put, if exercise burns enough calories, I can keep shoveling calories into my face. Granted, I’d perhaps have to be somewhat sensible about what I shovel into my face. (This strategy is what got me through uni, its tried and tested in that regard)

    While running has usually been my preferred form of cardio, it’s not sustainable to jump right into running 5-6 days a week, so I supplemented 2-3 of the runs with lower intensity exercise bike sessions. Surprisingly, these have proven so fun that I’ve mostly dropped runs for now.

    So far, these efforts have resulted in losing 6kg (13.3lbs) since the start of AugustOnionBlush! We’re definitely not there yet, I intend to drop another 5-7kg (11-15lbs) before getting back in the gym to bulk up again. However, I’m feeling a lot better already and my stamina has improved a good bitOnionNinja.


    3. What’s to come for 2025?

    Reflecting on the (lack of) progress in 2024 reminded me that I should perhaps stop overthinking the game so much. I’d love to actually break into the endgame content in 2025 and so far I’ve been making pretty solid progress towards that goal by just 7Fing on my shad. I was also very turned off by Horntail because the time invested is just too much to conveniently fit into my schedule. However, I’ve had a few very good experiences with joining single runs and I want to keep doing so.

    As for soloing zak, this dream is still very much alive and I don’t think it’s too far out of reach. If need be, I could dip my toes into solo 5-6F/Petri again to get my attackers closer to 150-160.

    Fortunately I’m getting closer and closer to repaying my debt, which should also free up funds to (finally) replace my gloves and cape.

    One last thing that briefly popped into my head was a potential “Road to Pasta Requirements” segment in the journal. Going off the latest requirements found in this thread, I’d have to reach the following requirements (which can be lowered by reaching the preferences listed afterwards):

    Requirements:
    • Main character level 180 or higher
    • Gear on main character should be worth 40ws.
    Preferences:
    • Having bossing mule(s).
    • Being able to multiclient decently.
    • Being a consistent farmer / selling leech consistently.

    - The preferences aren’t really up my alley for now. I do have my 15x NL/Shad/Hero that might potentially reach a point of being CWK/Zak mules, but I don’t think this fully meets the ‘bossing mule’ status. Being able to multiclient ‘decently’ shouldn’t be a problem (though this is a somewhat vague statement). Farming consistently isn’t ideal since I’ve been spending most of my time in 7F trying to get to PB levels.
    - Reaching level 180 on the shad is only roughly 6b more exp, which would be 2 months at 100m exp/day. That’s perfectly doable.
    - Now comes the kicker however. While I am probably up to like 20ish ws in total, this is spread across various characters. My shad is pretty darn poor right now, so that’d require some huge investments/gains.

    Will I bother with this? Who knows. I did want to mention it here because it is on the back of my mind for 2025.

    To sum it all up, it's time to ‘lock in’ as the cool kids say.OnionNinjaOnionNinja


    4. AMA

    You is my best friend and it’s because you have ridiculous luck and I’m hoping you can be my next inheritance project.

    While he may be much faster, he is significantly worse at holding daggers. I simply cannot fathom cutting all these Fat Sausages from Gachapon with a wand.

    Community-wise, it was probably when a bunch of us met up IRL to have food and drinks. Game-wise, it genuinely might have been my first HTP (buyer) run years ago. A series of unfortunate events led to the bishop dying out and I was not made aware of how ludicrously sharp Horntails elbows were. So, I was asked to cross from left side to right and I did so a little too whimsically, bumping my head into HT’s elbow and thus failing to see the end of the run. Massive shoutouts to Nimbus for deciding to give me a warm welcome immediately after that run.

    This would probably have to be a mistake I’ve made repeatedly over the past years: making characters on old accounts that have NX on them and then realizing I’d very much like to play multiple chars on said account simultaneously. I’ve had to remake more chars than I’d like to admit.

    Fortunately we've since resolved this horrible oversight!

    5. Finally, thank you!

    I’m not going to be listing specific names because I feel like that’s just going to lead to me forgetting someone, but a massive thank you for everyone who has let me ramble about my moople plans, those who have chipped in on my journal with tips, and Duds & Nimbus for providing warm welcomes whenever I logged in. Last but definitely not least, I’d like to thank KimmyKimmy and the rest of her wonderful staff for keeping the game not just alive, but regularly expanding.
     
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    Day .... 1 of 2026!

    Alright, so I've decided that I do indeed want to focus almost fully on my shad for now. The Multi-<Whatever> army sounds like a very fun project but I think I wouldn't get enough fun or use out of it to warrant sidelining my shad (again).

    The Past Weeks

    In my last post, I was pretty close to finishing off my debt to FerluciFerluci . Fortunately I'm blessed with very kind friends and we reached the conclusion that he did not want me to repay him for the Craven. This, however, suddenly free up 800c that I had been saving up over the past months!
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    10 att cape get!

    I'm stoked to finally have a cape in the double digits. It by no means qualifies as rich, but it does feel like I'm getting closer to becoming a valid midgamer.
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    I forgot to screencap the trade window, but I was also fortunate enough to buy a 14 att bwg (which upgrades the temporary 10 att mittens I was using) from a good friend.

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    Pretty significant range gains! Unfortunately we're still just a little bit shy of breaking the 8k max range mark without cider, but that won't be long.

    What does this leave us with?

    With the recent upgrades, this is probably a good a time as any to evaluate the gear my shad is currently using. Making a picture collage is tedious so I'll do a text version for now:
    Hat: 16/32/16/15 Scar Helm
    Eye: 2 dex / 2 speed Spectrum Goggles (lol)
    Face: 6 att Strawberry Icecream Bar
    Ear: 4/2/1/14 72hp Timeless Earrings
    Cape: 10 att Pink Gaia Cape
    Glove: 14 att Brown Work Gloves
    Top: 2/21 Red Pirate Top
    Bot: 16/4 Red Pirate Pants
    Shoes: 11 dex 3 luk Brown Osfa Boots
    Pendant: 22/23/21/23 HTP
    Ring1: Monster Book Ring <Tier 10>
    Ring2: Zombie Army Ring (+3)
    Ring3: Ephenia's Ring (+0)
    Ring4: Moonstone Wedding Ring
    Dagger: 15/125 Gold Double Knife
    Shield: 7/1/31 Dragon Khanjar

    Doing a value estimation is probably not worth the effort. But, purely for the sake of memes, I think I'm probably somewhere between the 15-20ws value mark. (800c cape + 200c BWG + 200c Dagger + 200c Shield?)
    Dagger and Shield might have dropped a bit but top/bot probably bring the total up somewhere above 3b.

    What's next?

    I still have a 90c debt for the BWG's, which I think I should be able to pay off reasonably quickly. After that, it's time to begin something I've been half dreading and half excited about for a good 5 years now: going for a perfect weapon.

    I've finally settled into a pretty good rhythm with regards to making meso. Most nights I spend ~90 minutes doing exercise bike + ML5, which is then followed by 1-2 hours of running any content I can get my hands on (Mostly Zak/Krex/CWK/JC/Nib).

    Doing this, I think I'm pulling in anywhere between 20-40m a day, varying from day to day. Averaging that out to 30m/day, that's 900m/month or ~425c.

    The expected cost for buying or making a +7 Perfect NT Dagger lies between 5-6k coins atm I believe (if the multishad horde can stop buying out all the fricking daggers). This would mean that farming the 5-6k would take me between 11,7 and 14,1 months. If I could get it done by the end of the year, that'd be a really cool goal to work towards.

    I think I'll just maintain the progress of my coin stack here in future posts.

    For now:
    Coins [-90/6000]
     
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    Sure! I'll use some averages since I haven't actually logged an EV for ML5 and I believe sports watches generally overestimate the amount of calories burned.

    EV for ML5: 20m/hr (including gach)
    Calories burned in 90 mins (according to my watch): 650

    1b would require 50 hours of ML5, which would be 33.3 sessions on the bike of 90 minutes each. 33.3 times 650 calories comes out to 21.645 calories.
    A somewhat commonly used metric is that a deficit of 3500 calories results in 1 pound of fat lost (debatable over extended periods of time, but fine for this ballpark calculation).

    Thus, farming 1b could theoretically result in 21.645/3500 = 6,2lbs of fat lost. (2.8kg for the sane people)

    I'm honestly somewhat disappointed! On the other hand, 33 bike sessions probably takes me anywhere between 45-60 days, and 2.8kg in 45-60 days sounds quite nice.
     
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    If we use this thread as precedent, it's perfectly TOS friendly if cleared with staff first. Ainz truly is an innovator in the space of exercise to meso conversion.
     
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    Wow it’s already 2026. 2025 flew by
     
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    Day 2 of 2026 2025 (sorry)

    First things first:
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    Wahoo!!!! 170, we can now officially BGA (while we still haven't ran Nameless, but that's besides the point)

    I've decided to add onto my tracking process in the previous post by designing (yet) an(other) Excel sheet.
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    Some notes:
    - The coins from stuff like ML5/7F/DGP is basically just a rough estimate of (meso made / 2,1). It's not taking gach into consideration, but everything else is being taken into account (scrolls/equips/etcs/pots/whatever).
    - 'Total Saved' only includes the actual coins I physically have. This might create a bit of an odd disparity between 'Total Gained' and the visible increase in 'Total Saved' (as Total Saved might require me to sell scrolls etc.)
    - 'Total Predicted' is automatically calculated based on what date it is. If I want to reach 5k coins by 31/12/2025, I would've had to farm 13.7 coins/day for 365 days. Unfortunately, I started farming on 10/1 and I already have a 90c debt to my name. That means I would currently be behind schedule by (123,29 + 90 = 213c). I might readjust the math to start counting from 10/1 instead, but this is what it's looking like for now.

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    I gained roughly 25% today. At this pace, I should be heading towards Core Blaze / Auf / PB within too-too long.

    Edit: One thing I forgot to mention is that I'm honestly finding it fairly difficult to find (sufficient) content. I suppose this is why everyone is creating multi-attacking setups, but I think I'm going to have to become more comfortable hosting content. I'm already fine with hosting zak/krex/jc, but I'd like to add NT to this. Perhaps some 10-man-HT's or BGA runs further down the line.
     
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