Information December 2024 Balance Changes [Explained]

Whoah

 

Hurrah for Fashionstory!

 

Little did I realize that me buying a foot pedal three years ago was future proofing for this macro nerf-- feels like this was a regressive change that only further promotes pay2win through multi computers and foot pedals. Perhaps I'm wrong but I don't think this was the balance change needed to target multi attacking or multi-NLs.

 

All these changes are solid. The balance team did a great job here!

 

Doesn't this facilitate multimaging (since macro's can be queued to go off after another skill)? I realise you can't queue 3 ults, but this does allow you to already queue up the ult to go off after you finish rebuffing.

I'm not sure how I feel about bashing multiattacking in bossing while multimagers are effectively getting away with the same income (unless you factor in the 1 person soloing HT)

 

Are there exceptions for attacking skills affected by this macro change?

For example, the recoil-wings-recoil macro is such a big part of the slinger identity and a huge quality of life for the class. It sounds like that is no longer possible.

 

R> Duo atker for 3man HT, Must have 2+ PC with foot pedals

I see this issue as similar one with multiclienting. for multiclienting, ML officially opened gate on everyone to be against p2w coming from multiple devices for fairness, but for multiatking coming from macro sweating using 1pc, seems ML went to 'p2w' method eventually, in opposite path of where they went multiclienting.

 

holy shit, i'm drinking and i wanna hit the epehenia bonk

 

Yep, doing CWK as MP will be "fun" from now on.

 

Lol must have 2PC + foot pedal. If someone is sweaty enough to buy this kind of set up, why not? They're already an unstoppable force.
Majority of players will want to play on just 1 PC and I personally like the nerf on triple attack macro.

 

> While scaling via multiple computers remains an option, it requires more setup and is arguably more challenging due to the need to monitor multiple screens and multiple setups.

It's interesting that this mindset of "well, it still works with multiple computers" is at direct odds with some of the reasoning put forth in the "multi-clienting explained once and for all" thread.

 

Yes, it's great step toward p2w because multiple device setup owners will be benefitted, for they don't need to compete with 1 device cheap sweaty multi attackers anymore.

If nerfing multiattack itself was purpose of balance team, they should've thought how to apply it fairly on every players, not just killing 1 device and calling multiple device as 'challenging' which I can't even agree on.

I'm okay with multiattack nerf as long as it's applied in fairness, on every players. but NOT in this way. This is nothing but 'get 2+ devices or you're screwed, won't be even allowed to compete with them. pay 1 more device if you want to compete, or, just deal with it'.

 

Hehehe

 

Awesome awesome changes, almost shed a tear when I saw that axes and 2h maces are finally, FINALLY getting some love after all these years.

Not to be dramatic but since I played osms i 2006 i've been revolted and confused at why neckson made these weapon classes trash in every single possible aspect, and this feels like them finally receiving something to attempt to bring them up to parity.

Also fuck multiclient attacking, this macro nerf is a good babystep imo

 

Multi PC setup with pedal gaming doesn't seem like a fair comparison to a single PC, multi-window, click 1 and cast triple atk macro.

Maybe I'm wrong but the 2nd or 3rd PC set up with pedal seems way more work, not just to setup but also to operate.

 

Issue is, sweaty players (including myself) will still multiattack with multiple devices and 1pc players won't ever have chance to compete with us, that's why I'm so against of this.

 

I think the macro change is interesting and worth experimenting with.

Just because a solution isn't perfect doesn't mean its not worth implementing/experimenting with. It's a whole lot better than letting multi-attacking continue unabated. maybe it'll work, maybe it wont. It's not like this is the final solution, if we find a better way to nerf multi-attacking, then we can swap to that solution. Changing policy, i feel like, is a bigger commitment than balance changes. Balance can be changes patch to patch, but policy shouldn't change patch to patch, otherwise it'll cause greater confusion.

Mind you, i also don't think this is good thing, and I would 1000% be in support of something that fixes multi-attacking for both single and multi-computers. But its not like we're letting people buy meso in a real "pay2win" fashion, so I'm down to experiment with this balance change for a bit and see what happens. Besides, even before this change 2 device players always had advantage over 1 device players.

I do agree with krythan that its sorta at odds with "multi-clienting once and for all" thread, but that thread was more about trying to use policy to fix the problem and this is more about using balance change to fix the problem.

 

Ill be real if you're paying for multiple pcs and footpedals and all that just to have an in-game advantage on a kinda obscure private server of all things, maybe just let em have their thing at that point lmao

anyway who cares 2M STYLE CHANGE LETS GOOOOO 10/10

 

Great changes, looking forward to getting in the game!