restore MW30

I'd support this. Based on the price, I think ya'll deserve a few extra points.

 

It seems like such a meme this was introduced at 13% vs 15% yet we get facestompers. Where is the arguement for power creep when you bring facestompers into the mix

Considering the extremely expensive value at 1.9-2.2b it should be 15%. Currently it's only value is in party utility not in single char performance. I think currently it's cheaper to Ws10 a weapon than it is to get Mw30 if you are simply comparing single char w.att gains. My Bowmaster would gain roughly 4~ w.att from Mw30.

It's essentially a 15% stat boost for the party (since bishops don't have exceptional note worthy dpm increase) compared to a 25% increase in stat when comparing Mw20 to Mw30 (15% Bonus)

On my Bowmaster Mw30 accounts for roughly 200-300k dpm even at 191.

 

The +~4 w.att for each attacker (5) in the party is a pretty sweet increase. At least, if you were to compare it to the equivalent item upgrades across all party members in order to gain that same bonus.

 

true, but if you give 1-2 NL FS they'll do more dpm than the entire party would gain so the power creep arguement is kinda null

 

Valid point! ha ha

 

nope, power spike and more solo gameplay. i recommend nerfing all mw10,20 and 30 by 1%

 

warrior buff!

 

Its just maplelegends balance philosophy. I don't think we have ever gotten a single piece of new content without it being nerfed / balanced.

CWKPQ -> MoN 10 att clean -> 5 att 1 slot
NT -> Various weapons had their secondary stat requirements increased
Pink bean -> MW and TL weapons attack nerfed
AUF -> changed, but significantly nerfed compared to the end game vanilla version
Elin Forest -> Ephenias ring originally gave weapon attack

 

we trying to fix it tho

 

If mw30 is stopping someone from overcoming a solo gameplay vs duo gameplay then one apple would contribute more than the mw30 would.

 

14 is a nicer looking number than 13 and 15.
14% is the appropiate correction.

 

just make end game content 10% harder to reverse the power creep, easy fix

 

I just mw20 over people's mw30 in order to prevent power creep. Just doing my part!

 

The current 13% mw is actually huge for mages and a cheaper upgrade then most perfect mage equips.

 

Since any int is raw gains yes, but it doesn't really contribute much unless you're on a threshold for 1h dark or when considering DPM in things like Horntail where its possible to achieve 6-7m+ dpm as a bishop, although I'd think those gains are fairly negligible.

 

Yes its main benefit is to meet the tma thresholds. The 3% from mw30 gives ~30 int, which is equal to lvling up 6 times, which can be pretty hard at 19x. It also means a bishop can 1h petris (about same tma as 1h darks) 6 lvls faster and sell petri leech, which is a decent amount more meso/hr then skeles. Probably also applies to 2-3 hit thresholds for 5-6f. Mainly its an efficient upgrade for mage mains whereas non-mages would likely get mw30 after they have a perf weapon.

 

imo we don't lack stats, we already do too much damage. This is a very farm-heavy game, there should be some in-game DPM-gates but mostly we have HP-gates and class-gates - for everything else there's Apples

not saying 15% MW30 would be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but it would be a great leap in the wrong direction

 

Tbf people can just choose not to buy it if it isn’t worth the cost for them since it's not like a core skill like Genesis, and any buffs will likely lead to an increase in cost as it’s now comparatively more valuable for the individual vs other gear. The cost : power ratio likely won’t change much

 

I have no opinions.