Important The end of 2021.

I deleted so many characters (at least 20) and yet have reached good levels in general with most classes (only class remaining is Buccaneer), I find myself being a 1-120 experienced player and I don't find any issue with the fact of a possible future game revamp (couple of years).
In the meantime I'll just continue to bitch post suggestions in hopes of them ever getting considered for game balances.

Three snails skill being changed to work without shells shouldn't be even be interesting to you lol, there are better ways to level up 1-10 and, to be honest, the 15-20 minutes used to grind those levels is not even that major.

So wow, maybe thanks to this change we will be able of completing 1-10 in 10-15 minutes... 5 minutes save to go take a toilet break I guess.

With this what I'm saying is, stop being so melodramatic about a change that doesn't even affect anyone, if not the one being Islanders or Campers and go back to spamming ultis on mobs.

PS you most likely won't like me cause I'm the anti Christ against mages and their balance / game situation

 

what would a version of this game without hp washing look like? what would be the point of warriors? assuming the dps of classes like NL, MM, BM would be adjusted to compensate for losing their only weakness, we'd be reducing a lot of classes to being cosmetic variations of the same thing. the dreamMS thing of gaining a small amount of hp per major boss kill seems like a neat idea though.

 

OK so i don't hate you for wanting to balance mages ok its fine, what ever. What i'm talking about is the snails, you said that they were not important, but i disagree, they are the most nostalgic and essential mob to the maplelegends community, everyone has killed a snail at some point in their lifetime. So to change the difficulty of the snails is to undermine the experience that every player on the server has experienced killing snails. It is not about how much time you spend on snails, I don't care if it takes 20 or 30 minutes, you are correct that the time span is not important,. I want to say that the EXPERIANCE of killing snails is important. There are things about early game that cannot be strictly quantified into time zones and experience points. I'm talking about how the game flows. If you can one-shot most mobs with ease in the Victoria island how is that good flow or rewarding? one shots should only be given to the players that have leveled up enough. What about the old players who have had to struggle with the snails. I think it is a fundamental change to the nostalgic experience that directly conflicts with my vision of the server. I think there should be some level of tediousness to the early game that makes players sit back and think "wow it was challenging" getting from level 1-8. I believe that no level up should be too easy, and that this early game struggle separates the wheat from the chaff. I believe it refines and cultures the entire player base. Kim wanted a smoother early game, but I believe that the early game is as already perfect. This is just my opinion on what an ideal maple story game would be.

 

Posts like these are reasons why I think it's okay if Kimmy decides to favor some voices over others. :^)

 

I knowwwwww im talking about the EXPERIANCE U DENCE MOTHERFUKKAA *NOOFFENCE*

 

I think the suggestion thread I have given over a year ago is reasonable and doesn't require a whole "server wipe" to have implemented and, for players of any age (new players, old players, endgamers, bossers and such) there is no change if not a change in meta to get more equipments with w.def / stop wearing bathrobes.

Here is the link if you're interested in having a read :
https://forum.maplelegends.com/inde...-of-hp-washing-and-potential-solutions.38392/

And, for the ones interested, another suggestion I had to fix some issues on the economy :
https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/potions-cost-renewal.40520/

 

Why not Friggin try speedrunning from maple island to victoria, once with infinate snail shells once without. Its night and day. Im a compettitive leet gamer and i know good game design when i see it. I know infinite shells is broken. 100%

 

Personally I'm not a fan of things like recommended ap and sp allocation, I like the freedom to explore for myself and make mistakes.
But regardless of where staff wants to go with their game, the effort that they've put into this so far has given and continues to give me so much fun and satisfaction and I really really appreciate your hard work

 

My idealistic answer would be to rework the natural hp gain from leveling for each job. These are half-random numbers but assuming that we balance around 30k hp as the maximum, at lv200 DKs can reach 18.75k hp (becomes 30k w/ hb), other warriors can reach 15k, buccs 15k, and all other ranged attackers to 10k.

Make the hp gain scale up higher for 3rd and 4th job since that's when mobs start to hurt. With this ratio, warriors are still relevant, DKs are relevant, and idk looks pretty balanced to me.

 

if you do like a dreams there are no reasons to make a cleave (less end game content, no hb required, low mobility and low acc/avoid) if you rework acc/avoid and change the warrior mobility you make a thing like big bang, look at example you gave, dreamms got a huge motivation to NEW players, then it died.

 

there could be a cap on the bonus hp gained from bosses, maybe 1500-2500, with maybe 50 a kill from a select few. it wouldn't entirely remove washing, but reduce how difficult it is to get to a playable amount of hp.

 

i agree with this, croosade was a system like this and work well, maybe a quest or some boss drop be nice too

 

i don't know what to say about your thread kimmy but i all can say is wish you good luck and hope good things will happened in the game and the community

 

"The many mages of a certain sweaty person brought forth abundantly. They reasoned within themself, saying, 'What will I do, because I don't have room to store my virutal riches?' They said, 'This is what I will do. I will invest in WS/CSprestigious coins, and use them to scroll perfect weapon and items, and I will buy INT items and leech, and I will make all kinds of numbers go up. I will tell my soul, "Soul, you can take pride in possessing the virtual number of all the server's people's envy. Take your ease, meme, shittalk, be merry."' But Kimmy said to them, 'You foolish one, tonight the server your virtual numbers on will be reset.' And Neckson said to them, 'You foolish one, tonight the server your virtual numbers on will be hit with DMCA sticks.' And God said to them, 'You foolish one, tonight your soul is required of you.' And they all said, 'The virtual numbers you have prepared-where will they be?' So are they who plays only for virtual numbers for themself, and do not enrich their soul with friendship and good memories."

 

Thanks for the hard work Kimmy and staff! I'm sort of a lurker around ML, and I play in bursts of like weeks then don't touch it for another half a year, mostly because of leeching and hp washing making me demotivated. Even though the solutions to these problems are very difficult and might not even be implemented, I am glad hearing that I am not alone in feeling that they are detrimental to the game experience. That aside, the community has always been great and has been the main reason I even log in every now and then.

Playing many online games throughout my life, I've seen some of my favorite games come and go (or worse, refuse to die). That's the reality of online games and especially MMOs. I could take it a step forward and say it's true for life as well but that's just a little depressing lol. I guess what I am trying to say is that I'm all up for making the server a more fun experience over a more nostalgic experience. I am playing Maplestory from 2008-ish on a three monitor setup after all lol.

Also I feel you on the Discord situation

 

Honestly I completely disagree with Akash about "fairness" being an issue and I think that just straight up patching out or overhauling badly designed content is infinitely better than a wipe, which IMO is a last-resort scenario.

To put this in simple terms: I would rather have my main deleted even though I worked on it for 5 years now than have my whole account reset.

 

THANK YOU KIMMY!!!


Three Snails at TRAINING CAMP IS AWESOME!!!

• this is just the quality of life i never knew i needed!

- Please keep this server up and running longer!



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Life at Training Camp and Maple Island is a lot calmer... no need for FM/Leech/Washing.

• although Island life needs more speeeeeeed equips/scrolls lol

 

any islanders want to buy my hoard of like 20k red snail shells?

 

I think people need to be eased into the idea of a new slate. It hurts but personally as long as all the friends I've made so far doesn't change and the community doesn't change and we can try to stay positive together and put our heads together to create something awesome.

It's a incredibly hard decision to clean the slate and start new and we all know a large number of the community would just quit the game entirely no matter for what purpose you're making the decision.

Than again people aren't happy with what the game is. So you would you rather continue to play a trash game you don't like and that people are complaining about endlessly and it'll always be thing after thing that there is an issue with. That honestly sounds like a hell and I feel bad for the staff team because I've been reading some of the stuff people have been saying.

Kimmy honestly I always thought you were the professional type but I guess I never dug so deep into all the things you say and I just imagined you as a figure head of the server our mascot. tbh I liked reading the post and I felt a lot of the thing you were saying. It was like reading something I wrote myself.

I can appreciate the relatable thing I think moderation teams are better that way. Anyways my final thoughts the clean wipe is a good idea but you need to make sure you can actually create what you vision and that it'll be good so we don't wipe all our hard work and effort for some trash. Just try to do it without destroying the entire community. Good luck