Buff Berserk's damage bonus

The chart is bias because no buffs. Furthermore it doesn't include sky ski which is actually the better spear.

If you include SI / SE, then the numbers will show that drk is not too much different that hero.

Furthermore, I would always prefer to have a drk in my party over a hero.

 

It's because NT spear is slow speed all they have to do is buff the slow speed to normal speed and we're fine. Sky ski being our endgame weapon is tragic.

 

If you have SI it makes no sense to compare it with a ST. If you want a comparison, Nise compiled this recently: https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/warrior-damage-comparison-neo-tokyo-vers.30381/

I see this as a non-issue, since zerk is the first skill you max (or after Beholder 10), and zerk books are dirt cheap now. The people affected probably won't be stuck at the stage for a very long time, and it sounds more like a player skill issue to me.

 

I used to think the same that darks put in a lot of effort and don’t get rewarded enough which is true in a damage sense but the difference isn’t that huge. I’d prefer to have slightly lower damage but an incredibly useful buff in HB. I do agree though that there needs to be more variety in potions for darks which is why I want triangular sushi in game so much (20% hp and mp healing). It’ll put our potion cost more equal to other classes so we aren’t paying 4.5k for a cheese or 5k for a milk when everybody else gets the incredibly broken NLC potions.

 

i will agree to buff dk if they give us a hb party bear buff that cant be dispelled

 

I don't think you should use that chart as a reference, some of the numbers are a bit questionable.

 

A lot of the end-game Dark Knights aren't really after a damage buff as far as I can tell. I also don't believe that every underperforming class needs a damage buff unless they are well outside of an accepted range of damage. Dark Knights are very comparable to Heroes damage-wise, at least when fully buffed, but it does come with the note that Dark Knights improve a lot more from SE/SI than the other warriors do, and they do need SE/SI in order to be truly comparable. SE works less effectively with the higher base damage of Brandish, and even less on the huge base damage of Blast. SI can be replaced by faster weapons on Heroes/Paladins as well, leaving all the big improvements to damage to party buffs, otherwise a Dark Knight will always be lackluster compared to their counterparts.

There are issues though. The best weapons, Sky Skis and Purple Surfboards, being locked behind gach and summer event isn't the best system to have, especially when other classes benefit more from the release of Neo-Tokyo, with the 1h weapons replacing RK's making instances of no-SI becoming less of an issue for those classes, and the 2h sword being a direct upgrade to Claymore for when there is SI. The NT spear is actually comparable to Sky Skis, but only until you start taking attack potions into account. Skis should be better around the point where you're on Stew or HT buff, and anything after that point Skis look better and better. Normal speed on the Skis is also much better for jump-attacking, and the slower you become the worse it gets for dodging 1/1's or for cleaving Left Head in HT. Normal speed is also much better for general mob grinding, as generally more attack rarely upgrades kills from 3ko to 2ko, or from 2ko to 1ko, leaving speed much more effective at getting more kills per hour.

Potions are likely the biggest concern. I don't even bother with any content other than HT if the max hit is above ~7k as it's just too expensive to chug reindeer milk for whatever the reward is, or I'll essentially be very mediocre damage by chugging ginseng above the max hit, which is really quite boring as pet pot doesn't keep me engaged. Sushi being available for 2-3k each would fix that, you'd still want to use ginsengs at 15% for general use but have Sushi for manual potting to conserve money/bag space.

Sacrifice could probably use some rework as well. The attack range on it is so poor that you can't use it for micro-managing HP vs either HT arm or Mid Head. If Wings are down you either need to Roar for -9k HP or wait for Arm to do an attack before using it. It would also benefit from being unable to crit like the Bowmen's Inferno/Blizzard skills, as when that rarely happens you can reduce far more HP than you anticipated, and if you're unlucky you can get banged by a hit, crit-sacrifice with zerk, then get banged by another hit before you realize your HP is so low. It also doesn't help that your damage is based off of swing/stab as well, which makes the damage you take either very high with a crit stab or almost nonexistent with a swing. It would benefit greatly from using Dragon Roar's damage formula so it doesn't matter if it's swing or stab, being unable to crit, and a range increase to match Crusher's[Which is also rather poor and may benefit from a ~3 pixel increase, but then again jumping to the exact edge of a platform where falling off is almost certain death is fun and a skill all DK's should get]. It should just be a better utility for maintaining HP rather than the roll of the dice that it currently is. It's generally just easier to use Roar, even if it does take off a hefty 9k chunk out of HP.

#Sushi4Pres2020

 

the only change I wanna see is stance 100% for drk/hero

 

I mean, Heroes get their only party buff replaced by a 300nx Party Bear.

 

I can't really say if there'd be a reasonable buff to do to it because other options for skills would still be too nice to pass up. Being mixed Spear/PA takes away 30 SP but otherwise it could be used for maxing Sacrifice and getting Power Crash, which has it's uses now in cwkpq and in HT with a cowardly bishop. :^) Unless it offers a stackable attack buff of like ~3-4 attack I can't see much of a reason to use the skill.

Coke Pills and Party Bears are just OP. Skills weren't designed around having such good options available eventually, and it's especially apparent with things like Final Attack.

 

The only thing we want its the sushi. when the true QoL change will come for dks?

 

You get "Hex of the beholder" maxed out, and that gives you +15atk every 4 seconds nonstop

 

dk is probably one the top 3 strongest class in-game if you don't mind zerking. With a very useful buff. They also have an easier training life in 3rd job compared to warrior counterparts.

we need to instead buff buccs that 99% of player base are mules

 

Hard agree on this one. PLEASE buff the range!

I have to get so close that I often touch the boss’ body, losing more HP than was intended.

This is a huge issue especially for bosses like Nameless where micro-managing hp to zerk is extremely crucial.