Monster Card Drop Rate!

Yes

 

So get a bishop and spam gene on snails,I gave you my method because I have a drk too,you had 2 choices

1 : to say thank you,and I will try my self.

2 : keep blaming the server because it’s v62 and it’s hard

 

3 : he's free to say no to you.

 

Pls stop

 

ITS SUPPOSE TO BE HARD ITS V62 YO

and here I am trying to help you to get more cards but you keep saying no.

know what? I’m solo player anyway, find your own methods gl bud

 

Naise has every single card in the Monster book list. As a DK and doing it mostly solo, and then farming with friends. It honestly wasn’t that bad. To reach tier10 you do NOT need all the cards. You can skip specific cards you do not wish to do. There are also MB farming guides in the forums that are the best spots.

And tbh, DKs have it easy... idk what it is, but dragon roar droprate is op. It’s just some cards are harder than others. it’s fun when you do it with friends.

Make small goals on how many to farm a day, Pick a certain town and farm it up. Farming cards when it released was awesome cuz it was something else to do, instead of bossing and grinding. Some cards droprate is different than other. Most of the endgame mobs droprate is worse than the low level ones.

even a new player can start with farming LOW level mobs and also make mesos by farming cards.
-equips
-mesos
-scrolls
-miths ores
a lot of area bosses drops a lot of equips you can NPC.

This tier10 ring is custom and to ML. The 1000hp given helps people NOT add more baseINT if they do NOT want to. 1000hp is a lot. The reward should not be easy to get, if everyone had tier10 it wouldn’t be as unique as it is now. Don’t do it alone all the time. Find people to do it with.

Go at your own pace and have a good
Time.

 

You’d be surprised how OP dragon roar + honsters farming cards was...

 

I just want to add some perspective to this conversation. I have been farming cards lately and I do agree that it is a huge challenge.

I have spent over 50 hours farming cards so far and from what I have seen, most sets take me about 30 minutes to farm on my corsair.

Some take more , and a few take less, however 30 minutes is about the average. So, that means it would take someone about 150 hours to farm a tier 10 ring. Whether or not this is reasonable is up to debate.

However please do understand that the tier 10 monster book ring is very powerful, 1000 hp and 20 stat for most classes is ALOT

 

Not everyone necessarily agrees that this proposition is in fact "an improvement". While some might argue that cards are too hard to farm, there are others who think it is perfectly reasonable. Obviously you can't just ignore the opinions of older players, otherwise why not just double all the rates on the server? Surely that would make everything easier for newcomers.

 

30stat* for int warriors like me

 

I suppose if you wanted to be that reductionist that sounds about right. I have completed a task that took quite a bit of effort and I am somewhat proud of. In my eyes the difficulty of this task was perfectly reasonable andI wouldn't like other people to share the same achievement for significantly less effort. I could be equally reductionist towards your arguments. You find it difficult to accomplish the same task and deem the process to be unfun/unfair and request the task be made easier so you and future monster book farmers can finish the task more easily.

Now obviously both of our views obviously represent from portion of the player population. Perhaps if you're view was overwhelmingly more dominant I would concede the point, but given the amount of people that already have T10s I doubt that is the case.

 

It's already easier to get a t10 ring now than when the book initially came out. With all of the additional mobs that had cards added it's very reasonable to collect enough cards and get a tier 10. The minimum number of cards needed is 1500 but there are 2020 cards in total. That means a person can skip out on 104 sets of cards that they deem too difficult. Many mobs are awful with their drop rate but you can just skip them and move onto easier mobs. Honestly I never really hit trouble until tier 8 or 9. I still have 26 sets to go before I hit tier 10.

The Monster Book isn't even necessary content. I see it more as a prestige item. It shows your dedication and commitment to a character and more of a long term goal to accomplish. I tend to respect players more when I see they have a tier 10 ring. It's definitely a 150+ hour grind if you're trying to be quick, but it's really easy to rack up even more time. It's a mark of pride and making it easier diminishes the achievement of it.

If it is about stats or more HP you're almost always better off leveling up instead, or farming money for better int gear/Pet HP scrolls. 150 hours is a very long time to spend on 10-30 stats and 1k HP. If I had spent my time training instead I could probably gotten another 6 billion exp, which would put me another 13 levels higher, from 164 to 177. I could have used those levels to gain another 65 AP, along with maxing some of my later skills.

I didn't do that though because I saw the MB as more fun and a challenge. I hardly do anything efficiently, I'm here to have fun and the challenge is part of that. I've enjoyed the journey so far and I will continue to enjoy it until I become giddy with excitement when I get that tier 10 ring. It's a feeling that would be lessened if some of that challenge were taken away. Games need mountains like Everest, but at the same time climbing Everest isn't even a tenth the achievement it was 50 years back with locals now doing all of the hard lifting. I like where it's at now, diminishing it further only takes away from the experience.

 

If you're having trouble with the monster book, you should check out this spreadsheet (courtesy of Zooploop) and this one (courtesy of Precel and Bambo). They break down which sets are easiest to get and where the best places to farm them are.

Personally, I like the current challenge of the ring. As people in this thread have pointed out, it's a lot of stats to gain, and that should never come easily in a low rate, challenging, old school server.

Not only that, but it's one of the few things in the server which has to be earned and can't simply be bought (or seldom is). Considering how easy it is to buy leech/levels, I think retaining one thing that requires a devotion of hours upon hours makes getting a Tier 10 ring all that more valuable and brag worthy.

Plus, it's something fun to do with friends. All of Ludibrium clocktower has massive maps best farmed in a party.

 

Getting tier10 when it was only Victoria island/Orbis/Leafre/Ludi/Temple of time areas.... now theres showa/mushroom shrine/neo tokyo/Shaolin/ Its ALOT easier now.
Red ribbon pigs were easy for me, but wooden mask and red snails took me forever. Every mob is different for everyone. I know people who got funded JUST FROM CARD FARMING. So many gach tickets drop as well.

 

here is updated version of the first spreadsheet https://forum.maplelegends.com/index.php?threads/monster-book-efficient-farming-guide.23984/

 

You sound like someone who just had a bad day of card farming and decided to rant it out on the forums.

How exactly did you calculate this? If the drop rate is as what you described. then you need to kill 1666666667 mobs just for that 1 card to drop. That number is just unrealistic. Furthermore, the rate/pace in which each card drop is different for each monster.

Additionally, the consensus of card farming being supposedly too hard/having low drop rate is only shared by a very few minority, perhaps if it were to lean to majority of the population (and a lesser number of people having T10), the suggestion could be debatable.

Monster Book is free HP/stat as it rewards players based on their achievement/hours they put into the game grinding. It's not like a T10 ring is a purchasable option, and that the server allowed farming cards as an alternative to get it and made the drop rate purposefully low.

Furthermore, you're a DK, who can just spam roar at the same speed/faster speed than mage ults without the nerf in drop rate, so I really don't see why you're complaining. If that particular mob is too hard for you, just move on to another mob or follow a MB guide.

But then again, you're just someone who decided to complain about slow card farm rate after getting just 42 cards, when I don't see anyone with 1500+ cards ever complaining here.

 

Cards aren't meant to be freebie hand outs due to the T10 ring, given the stats it provides. Maybe if the ring didn't exist, then the rates would be higher for cards, but at the same time a lot of people probably wouldn't collect cards at all. From a collector's viewpoint; I didn't/still don't find collecting cards that bad except for a few areas where the mobs/specific mobs are tedious to kill due to a few different reasons (deep aqua, pepe & yeti combos), the challenge makes it fun for me even if it is time consuming. Approaching it T10 style, I finished my ring before the new cards were added for the first rendition of the monster book release, even then I didn't find it that bad except for high level areas/tedious mobs. For reference, I was a 15X bowmaster with a hearty amount of base int when I grinded for T10.

 

Just get 1 card each from every mob then

Most people here aren't even high-level enough to content with the higher-level mobs to farm them, or are just here for the nostalgia/don't bother. There are also those who have already washed to the HP they want before the content was released, so not a lot of them bother with it. More than half the 4th job population is also made up of mages, and T10 ring isn't really necessary for mages, unless you really want them or want to tank HT w/o MG. Most just pick up whatever they find and won't go out of their way specifically to farm the cards.

So who are these "most people"?