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Make It Harder to Accidentally Summon HT Preheads

Discussion in 'Rejected' started by Gurk, Nov 26, 2024.

  1. Gurk
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    These stages induce great anxiety in me for I have developed PTSD from buyers and dum-dums who have repeatedly inadvertently locked out other players in the squad, a tale perhaps all too familiar for frequent HT runners. I would thus like to suggest that something akin to the rock in HT body that needs to be whacked be added to preheads, or for there to be an option from the NPC to trigger the prehead summoning. This would alleviate any need for runners to give HTP buyers the usual spew about having to come in last and all that jazz and any fears surrounding it.

    #StopBuyerHate
     
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    It's also painful for poor poor people like me who need to move their cute virtual character around to gain sufficient dopamine, but then your host will go "NO YOU SIT STILL AND WAIT FOR EVERYONE TO GET IN HERE OR ELSE"

    also another way to solve this is remove preheads altogether 5head
     
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    There is actually a better solution. You see, the problem here is not that the preheads are easy to accidentally summon, but rather that players are LOCKED out from entering the map once they are summoned.

    Simply change the prehead maps to allow people to enter even if the preheads have been summoned. You can keep the restriction for horntail main body since it is much less feasible to actively summon.
     
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    Half joke half serious, just remove preheads stage and make timer 90mins.

    Oh wait, my vote time...
     
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    sounds like free afk for mules
     
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    I would LOVE this. Party member running late? "just got out of the shower", "need to report real quick", "on the boat now", it'd be fanatic to get a head start of the dragon piñatas.

    Also, how long before someone then offers "pre-head service". And brings their 6 corsairs to clear preheads for you :)
     
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    Or we could have it warp everyone in at the same time once the leader enters the map like it was originally designed to
     
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    im gonna take a shit before every horntail
     
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    buyers, first time runners, and for lack of a better term noobs, not listening to the host's instructions "ex: once you enter do not move until all players are in." is a form of griefing and reportable. alternatively, you can just blacklist them and let any and all of your people know about them so they can make sure to keep these problematic players out of HT.

    also if you have any of these people in your run and your host or someone else who knows whats up hasnt taken the time to explain the basic do and do nots to them then you just created a problem for yourself.

    this isnt a problem staff need to fix.
     
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    If you have a system where reporting a buyer or runner for a misstep within a few seconds of the expedition beginning is a normative action, one might wonder if the fault lies with the system rather than with the player.

    I believe this is a bannable offense under 3.3.3 of the ToS. In fact, there is a precedent for its execution in the context of PB.
     
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    just read up on 3.3.3 of the ToS, i dont see how that is applicable here. the closest point i can find is "c. Becoming the target of discrimination due to the spreading of falsehoods." however in the instance that a player is in fact a problem and ruining the game experience for others, it would not be a falsehood, and backable via evidence. so i would kindly ask for a little education or where i can find the precedent you refer to so i can read up and educate myself.
     
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    Did you ever hear the tragedy of the steel bird?
     
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    unless it is a real world event i can google then no. this should be the first im hearing of it.
     
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    I do remember I almost reported someone who misbehaved in my HT run (looting stuffs ahead of host, me), asked staffs investigation on chatlog for I told him clearly that 'Don't do that' ahead of his action, because he was veteran, not a noob. In the end, I also felt bad for making staffs bothered by this silly episode, I just blacklisted him from my run, and I've been gossip'ed for a month around himself because he was veteran. He may thought 'I'm experienced so I can do shits, dare blacklist me?', no, that's not what veterans should do.

    It is frustrating experience to see others just don't focus and ignore instruction, grief others with such mistakes. I'd be more kind if I see target is actually unexperienced (even it's still frustrating and disappointing behavior), but if it was from player who is experienced, I'd be way more mad.

    But yes, 'I'm newcomer, be kind on me' doesn't protect you from every mistakes you do, especially when others gave you instruction for that and you just ignored. Remind that many experienced veterans can detect it was truly your 'newcomers fault' or just nonsense one.
     
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    You're too kind.
     
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    I'd argue the problem isn't so much the players or community, but moreso just it being terrible game design (something MapleStory is all too familiar with if you ask me).
    How is it intuitive in any shape or form that climbing a rope/going into a specific area of the map will not only summon a boss, but also lock your party members from entering the map AND consuming one of your daily runs? The game fails to inform you of this and there's no real precedent in the lower level content to make this assumable.
     
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    The game doesn't inform of this because it wasn't designed like that. Originally all people in the expedition would warp in at the same time. Legends changed this because there was a bug that would d/c a lot of people when multiple people get moved to the same map at once. So as a workaround they made it so each person has to enter individually instead of fixing it properly.
     
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