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Information November 2024 Balance Changes [Explained]

Discussion in 'Update Notes' started by xiaoyaoz, Nov 10, 2024.

  1. xiaoyaoz
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    xiaoyaoz Game Developer Staff Member Game Developer Balance Team

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    Reminder: This only contains the balance related changes.

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    Welcome to our balance changes thread for the November 2024 Patch! While the main focus of this update was the Halloween event, we’ve also managed to sneak in a major rework for one of our late-game bosses—The Boss! While there are no other balance changes in this patch, we’re eager for you to explore the updates to The Boss.

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    「 Bodyguard A + Bodyguard B + The Boss 」

    The original sequence—BGA, BGB, and then The Boss—wasn’t exactly a fan favorite as it always stayed in the bottom 3 of bossing content that players ran. Some of the main issues were:
    1. Incredibly annoying stuns that were hardly interactive
    2. Tough entry point with extreme HP requirements
    3. Low monetary rewards
    This rework aims to address all that, incorporate cleave playstyles, and bring some real excitement back to The Boss fight.

    We’ve done a major overhaul to The Boss, so much so that it's almost a brand-new fight. We won’t spoil too many details here, as we want players to dive in and discover the new phases and revamped mechanics for themselves.

    Here are a few key hints we think players might find helpful:
    1. Maximum damage dealt by any enemies now is 11.5k HP. 1/1 is still in the fight, however.
    2. BGA and BGB now spawn together.
    3. The Boss will now be spawned after BGA and BGB receive a certain amount of damage, instead of after the death of BGB. Be careful of where and when it spawns!
    4. The Boss is now able to spawn a number of summons.
    5. Naturally spawning monsters in the map are all removed, footholds on the stanchion are removed, and all enemies in the fight will have no touch damage.
    6. Some attacks and effects are not the same as before.
    7. Several enemies have had their elemental weaknesses changed.
    8. Final drops only appear after BGA, BGB, and The Boss have all been killed.
    In addition to reworking The Boss, the entire drop pool has also received a significant droprate increase, including fresh rewards like:
    1. Raccoon Mask
    2. White Raccoon Mask
    3. Sky Ski
    4. Stonetooth Sword
    5. Brown Work Gloves
    6. Grey Work Gloves
    7. Yellow Adventurer Cape
    8. Brown Adventurer Cape
    The Boss can now drop up to 2 Mysterious Coin Pouch 3's as well, with an overall increased drop rate

    Additionally, the Big Boss Flashlight is now available to be exchanged for:
    1. Power Elixir
    2. Red Cider (+34 Weapon Attack)
    3. Yellow Cider (+35 Magic Attack)

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    This rework was a big team effort, we’re grateful for the hard work and dedication that went into making it happen. Special thanks to DrChuchuDrChuchu for the concept, xiaoyaozxiaoyaoz for most of the implementations and bibbiebibbie for some of the new design artwork. Big thanks to everyone on the team—and to all of you, we hope you enjoy the fight!
     
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  2. Ambrose
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    Thumbs down on BGA and BGB spawning at the same time. That makes duo/trio that much more difficult.
     
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    looking forward to bonk this
     
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    bring a cleave
     
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    How about creating the option of the new spawning format and the old spawning format but with the updated table? BGA was wholly unpopular due to it's drop table.
     
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    Not interested in any of this nonsense.
    Perhaps try the boss first and develop new strategies on how to run it best. We're very much open to feedback, but please actually base it on something
     
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    Perhaps one more thing is important to mention as well, several mobs have had their elemental weaknesses changed.
    The main post has been updated on this.
     
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    1. Maximum damage on any monsters now is 11.5k HP. 1/1 is still in the fight, however

    Maximum damage we deal to the monster? Or the maximum damage the monster deals to us? When you specific 11.5k HP and not 11.5k damage, does that mean management guard isn't applied?
     
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    J>BGA
     
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    Super hyped about a very unpopular boss rework! Awesone to see this direction from staff + BT given there’s so much good opportunity for fresh content through these neglected bosses.

    Also a big fan of the concept of a fight without touch damage! I really hope it works out well and gets used again in the future.
     
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    Any update on if starting this boss fight will consume lady boss's comb?
     
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    Excellent changes, I love it, you have my full support and I am excited to be able to fight the boss with these changes

    The only problem I see is that if the boss gives the brown work gloves with relative ease, it will undoubtedly lower the price of the item and will also affect the yellow marker, which is 10 levels higher and if memory serves I think it's just obtained through gachapon (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so I hope the drop of that particular item is quite low
     
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    Woah! DK rework talks and now more cleave content? Is this the year of the warrior? Foxpat
     
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    Updated the post with "dealt by any enemies" for better clarity. :)
     
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    Does the exp giveth the same as before or did that also increase?
     
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    Anyways, questions that still remain would:
    -Will we have an indicator as to when The Boss will spawn and if so, on BGA or on BGB or in a new spot in the map?
    -Will BGA/BGB die when The Boss spawns, and if there will be any exp drops?
    -Does BGA still have it's annoying stun attack?
    -Did BGB get any surprise attacks?
    -Does The Boss still have the 1/1 seal attack?
    -Did you guys retain the avoidability reduction for The Boss at 60 from the 2022 summer balance changes?

    Imagine The Boss spawns an Anego :joy:
     
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    Library will be updated at a later date (hopefully)
     
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