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Why is LMPQ so dead?

本贴由 FYOU 2021-04-12 发布于‘General Discussion’。

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    FYOU Red Snail

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    I've always wanted to try this pq but it's impossible to find people wanting to do this pq. I've heard that it's a pretty good way to level from 51-70 and eliminates the need to buy potions during those levels / (sell pots to npc for easy money) yet I can never find anybody on top of the clocktower.

    Is there a reason why nobody participates in this? Did it get nerfed / is not as good as people say it is?
     
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    akashsky Horntail

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    LMPQ is bad exp, and bad mesos compared to ghost ship (the area people usually grind from 51 to 70).
     
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    I completely disagree. Get a good party and you can complete LMPQ is under 1 minute. The potions don't seem like much, but you can get millions if you do it quickly. I think people on this server just aren't experienced with it, so don't do it. It's amazing experience and money.
     
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    LMPQ exp might be okay with a good party. Money is near-nonexistent though (don't you just get some random pots?) and you don't gain gacha tickets unlike grinding. Plus finding a party for any PQ is a big time waster whereas you can grind whenever you want on your own schedule with very little downtime.

    Don't get me wrong, it's not 100% dead content. You'll certainly find a few players to PQ there every now and then, but it's one of the (many) PQs that's desperately in need of some redeeming factor for the time and effort involved compared to simple training. The only PQs I would consider decent right now are HPQ, KPQ, EPQ, and maybe PPQ. CWKPQ doesn't count because it's basically just a boss run. All the others are suboptimal at best and pure cringe at worst (MPQ says hi).
     
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    LMPQ isn't thattttttt bad in mesos. I remember being very poor and not to knowledgeable about the game (when it came to optimal gameplay), and used this PQ as my main source for income and potions til 3rd job. I made about 45mil+ which was enough to afford myself a zhelm (they were 40mil during those days). Yes, making 45mil in 20 levels seems like a horrible deal for efficient players, but for me starting the game at the time, this was some blessed income. The experience obviously does not compare to GS2 but I recall leveling once every hour or so with a good group of ppl where we would get 1min pq's. This is quite nice for newer players to the game.

    Some notable items you could get at LMPQ include:
    - 30% junk scrolls that can be sold to dummy scrollers for 50k each
    - 10% cape for int
    - Emergency Rescue Tube, and red hearted earrings
    - watermelons
    - many ideal potions you could keep or simply NPC.

    The high valued prizes appear much more often than you think, assuming you could a lot of PQ's in a short period of time

    Equips:
    Emergency Rescue Tube (owl the price and compare - should be a few hundred k)
    Blood Snowboard
    Red Hearted Earrings (90k)
    Yellow Umbrella

    Scrolls: (Come in all varieties (10%, 30%, 60%, 70%) unless specified)
    Overall Armor for DEF
    Topwear for DEF
    Bottomwear for DEF
    Shield for DEF
    Cape for Wep. DEF
    Cape for Mag. DEF
    10% Cape for INT (i dunno 150k?)
    10% Cape for DEX (15k probably)

    Use (keep them or NPC them up2u):
    100 Mana Elixirs (31k)
    100 Dried Squids (31k)
    100 OJ's (46k)
    50 Watermelons (80k $$$$$$LOTTERY$$$$$$)
    50 Pure Waters (41.25k)
    20 Fat Sausages (12.6k)
    20 Grape Juices (18.6k)
    20 Fruit Milks (5k)
    20 Strawberry Milks (5k)
    20 Coffee Milks (5k)
    5 Pink Elixirs (~10k)
    5 Red Bean Sundaes (10k)
    1 Power Elixir (~3.5K)
     
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    What Akashsky said is sort of true however (same reply towards them)

    The exp is fine but when its peak hours for people training there or getting leeched its hard to get a map, so LMPQ is the other alternative.

    I agree, I did LMPQ a few times and it funded me up to get enough mesos to buy solo leech at higher levels saving the mesos in storage by every few mil I got, holding on the mesos kinda made me want to buy things I didn't even need.

    The PQ should be more popularized but people tend to just train at ghost ship until 3rd job.
     
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    back in 2017, hella ppl did LMPQ to get to 3rd job. just need to find a dope consistant group. I wish it was abit better tho. PQs would be a dope incentive to run it more :(
     
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    buff pqs plz
     
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    I think ppl just not big brained enough to navigate thru lmpq anymore
     
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    I loved LMPQ in GMS and I actually had two friends I regularly ran LMPQ with on my very first character here in Legends. So it's not entiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirely dead...!

    Honestly? I think people don't do it because (1) they can't do math (AKA figure out the portals LMFAO) and (2) because PQs in general are pretty hard to recruit for now that grinding is so much more time efficient.
     
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    I think its because some people don't want to search it up or use discord slime/drods bot to get the image.

    LMPQ Pass.png
     
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    It was popular and consistent back in 2017, but that was when Ghost Ship leech was very rare to see. Even with 10x the player base people would rather just skip it, but then again you can't just message half the server in ally chat to recruit.
     
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    LMPQ is not bad experience and gives some easy mesos, but it's also very exhausting. Unlike grinding where you can brain dead/watch TV at the same time, you have to actually pay attention constantly during LMPQ to optimize your run times. 90% of your time is either walking to portals or whacking the summon crates. And unlike other PQs which are also like this, in LMPQ you're literally repeating the steps every minute. 30 minutes of LMPQ feels like 2 hours. Even if LMPQ did give comparable experience to grinding, it won't be as popular because of this.
     
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    If you assume an average run time of 1.5 minutes per PQ (once you factor in inefficiencies from having to sell all the pots and stuff it's probably a fair assumption), and an average of 200 tickets per run (pretty sure the actual average is 150 since I think tickets have a 50% drop rate, but who knows) you can quickly see that the exp is actually dog shit.

    At level 51 with these assumptions, you would get 794k exp per hour which is already kind of bad at lvl 51, but it's pretty laughable at lvl 6x where you can easily get double or even triple that on some classes at ghostship, along with the ability to make more mesos and get gachapon tickets.

    Fixing this is pretty easy. PQ should be buffed to 2x exp. This would allow someone to get 1.6m exp per hour assuming 90 second runs which is pretty good (if you don't agree with my numbers that's fine they can easily be tweaked to be whatever you want it to be either by adjusting exp multiplier or by making ticket drop rate higher, but 794k is a massive lul) and then maybe people will considering foregoing the 0 brain cell, extremely profitable grind at ghost ship for some slightly better exp and less mesos at LMPQ.
     
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    #buffPQ's
     
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    I like LMPQ
    It provides a way for players to train attackers that otherwise would be too difficult or expensive (leech).
    Also it will allow people who train attackers to engage more in the game and hopefully reduce the overwhelming amount of leech and map selling there is.
     
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