Information September 2023 Balance Changes [Explained]

The fact that Aerial strike had its drop rate nerfed as well shows that the main cause of these nerfs is multi-farming, something that IMO shouldn't even be able to be a thing. Nerfing skills due to people running 4+ of those characters at once hurts casual/new people the most, and is a poor choice of a "fix".

3rd Job DK and it definitely negatively impacts non funded and casual players. I want my purple crayons back, they taste the best. Skills shouldn't be changed based off of people taking advantage of dynamics that are allowed to be done. In one of the other threads people are literally talking about running 6+ mages at once for farming. Might as well just allow botting at that point Imo.

 

Same, I've spent so much time using 3rd job AOE's instead of an ult when farming things because I thought I was getting a better drop rate. I've asked so many staff members over the years on if I crazy for doing this and either they didn't know, or they wouldn't tell me. This server is very transparent about most things but for some reason this silly drop system is Top Secret, which is especially absurd because it is a very custom feature. Nise's comment suggests it is a holdover from the OdinMS source, which suggests this has been kept secret for over a decade?

 

alchemist doesn’t work on NLC pots so it will be useless for ur very hard washed shadower

 

Useless for percentage pots yes but I have several bandits and none of them are washed as hard as my main.

 

My mildly washed 10k shad begs to differ, I use grilled cheese for HT 1/1s and it'd be poggers to have 1k HP/mp from a grilled cheese.

I also have a tiny itsy bitsy mana pool at 3.3k and I use sorcs for mp so it'd be awesome if I could use like mana elixirs or something for my main mp pot lol

 

Can you imagine using Grilled Cheese for your MP needs at endgame levels??? true chad pots

 

the majority wash beyond 10k anyway the alchemist is useless now like it or not lmao stop denying

 

Don't skill up alchemist then. :V

 

Who hurt you bro. So negative

 

Talking about gear you can start using at 110: “Only the sweatiest people can use the endgame gear that’s good for NLs”

Talking to someone who is 10k hp: “everyone hp washed over 10k”

my sides

 

If staff do refuse to give info about drop rates, it's really not that hard for players to determine it all for themselves. It took me like 2 days in slime tree to measure the drop rates using a bunch of different NL attacks, can't be bothered to make a mage but if people care enough then surely someone can do it.

 

ok let me give you roar drop rate nerf

50%

 

If drop rate is just a co-efficient that applies to all drops, then we can easily measure using the number of etc drop per x kills, and doesn’t need 2 days. Months to years just for this to be in place.

For equip and gacha drops only? Or 50% even for etc and meso drops.

I’m thinking somewhere like diminished rolls the more a skill hits. Or a modifier for the skill the mob is mostly damaged by.

Each possible item drop has its own roll every time a mob is killed, or could be a limited roll per skill cast, we will never know.

 

actually too lazy to measure etc and meso drops but for my dks i estimate from barbs/gach which went up from ~60 to ~120

 

I don't mean to stir the pot, but these NL nerfs only look "fine" if you're very funded. They hurt the average nl and anybody that disagrees is well, funded.

 

Want to elaborate?

 

Not much to elaborate on. You give the same budget to every class and NLs are not op. However this particular alchemist nerf changed the fundamentals of the actual skill. Complaining goes nowhere but I'm just stating my opinion.

 

i think for any reasonable budget nl outclasses others still

 

They already changed the fundamentals when they nerfed it from vanilla. This latest change is practically a complete removal of the skill.

 

I beg to differ. cfa30 is 9m rn. Let's not even talk about claw prices.
It doesn't make sense to nerf a class just because it's more popular.